A&Q about 350Z
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I would but my sit eis having problems right now...unless you have a way
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mail it to me if you dont mind
thank you
Lil liZ: 03 Touring, Black/Burnt Orange, no nav, manual
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is it the best motoring? if so, the camera car(gtr) was blocking all the other cars. in a straight 2 car race it would be different. also the m3 had the wrong tires for that slightly wet track. i'm just guessing that's the vid though.
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Even so the z was hardly 'whooping the m3's ass'. It's debateable on how much the camera car had an effect, but it would be close either way.
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I find the quote using special olympics offensive.
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actually this was a street race. Im probably going to post it on the skyline GTR forum..Ill post the link when I do.
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Crap.
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m12316 said
"is it the best motoring? if so, the camera car(gtr) was blocking all the other cars. in a straight 2 car race it would be different. also the m3 had the wrong tires for that slightly wet track. i'm just guessing that's the vid though."
It's funny you should mention that. I was thinking the same thing. I said that the last time that video came up in this forum and a lot of people were flailing their arms in the air lol. It was amusing with some of the responses that came up.
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Laying low or busy?
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it's a street race(ie, straight line)? then it's either a highly modified z or an older generation m3.
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Z with a tt or super charger will whip a new M3 E46 bad, very bad. Stock for stock, it's the opposite. Older generation M3 owners seem to always under estimate our Zs. They usually end up saying how their "10 year old car" is up to par with our Zs.
As far as the vol 6 video goes the Z kicked aZZ. Don't give me that sorry excuse that another car was blocking the M3, it's freaken race of course other cars are in front and in back of you. The M3 just couldn't catch up, even the dude driving the M3 said that....but this topic is quite old.
Post Edited (Apr 11, 9:09pm)
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72n03Zs: Yes, I've been busy with other things
djbit said,
"As far as the vol 6 video goes the Z kicked aZZ. Don't give me that sorry excuse that another car was blocking the M3, it's freaken race of course other cars are in front and in back of you. the M3 just couldn't catch up, even the dude driving the M3 said that....but this topic is quite old."
Ahh yes. This again. I remember the last time this topic came up someone else replied with "it's a race, of course cars are going to be in the way". Just to reinterate it for the 5th (or is it 10th?) time, the GTR is not competing in the race. It's the camera car.
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I lost mine, and like to watch it again.
Could you send me please? I also lost the video (the race between Porsche turbo, evo, gtr, corvette, ferrari, M3), I don't know from where? but I remember the porshce beat them all.
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no, the z didn't kick ass, gtr definitely blocked. in another bm vid with only three cars and a dry track the m3 easily defeated g35 coupe and 350z.
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like djbit said arent you guys forgetting something... the M3 is over $45,000 the Z is $30,000, of course the M3 should win. but its damn close none the less. strap a tt or a supercharger on the Z for 6-7k and Z would easily win plus youd have cash left over to do whatever you wanted with. Gimme a break, the M3 is a nice car but it 15K more than the Z.
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It kicked azz in my view. All these excuses are lame. If the quickest car won all the time why watch car racing? The Z won on that day, live with it. This does not mean it's a better car, it just means it's a very capable one.
Post Edited (Apr 12, 7:17pm)
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Don't forget about the boxter. It was blocked by so many cars.
Dark fusion 42, where is the video link? I need to watch it again and see who was blocked.
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Yeah, the boxter was blocked by the air. If it had a 0.0001 drag co efficient it would have won right? Next time they should put a F1 car in there as the camera car.
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my comments don't reflect a personal belief that one car is better than another. (i personally would rather have a 350z enthusiast for 27k than an m3 for 45k) just stating my objective observations. the gtr was blocking other cars. and the m3 outperformed the g and z in another bm under different conditions.
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also, iirc although they finished behind the z, the s2k and m3 had the top lap times in the tsukuba race.
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"also, iirc although they finished behind the z, the s2k and m3 had the top lap times in the tsukuba race."
Thank you. I also stated that the last time but I guess no one cared lol
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It's true somebody there must have the fastest lap time. But who ended with the slowest lap times? Probably not the boxter, I afraid the same car with the fastest lap time. It looks like s2k driver tried using the limit of the car all the time. Somebody said a 100 percent driver never achieve exactly 100 percent, but end up with 101 or probably 101.1 most of the time. This could be true, (I remember seeing s2k slided and made way for m3.) I think most drivers who won the race were those who choosed not to drive to the limit. Most pro driver are better than the car could handle (especially street cars), and many of them had tried racing to the limit but never won. The purpose of the race was not for the fastest lap time, but for winning the race.
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"The purpose of the race was not for the fastest lap time, but for winning the race."
Too bad the purpose for winning the race was hindered by an object called the R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R. As far as I'm concerned, if we didn't have a "camera car" in this race, it would have turned out differently. It'd be nice for them to do it again at some point. Maybe they can throw a Lotus Elise in there too.
Post Edited (Apr 13, 10:23pm)
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the purpose of the race is to get people interested in buying best motoring vids. i personally feel top lap time is more important than finish position (for the purposes of evaluating cars' relative performance, not for professional racing) because it implies the car could make that same time or better for all laps with the right driver. we don't know that the z could match that lap time because it never did during the race (although i'm not saying it definitely couldn't).
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it should be noted that the z got the same lap time as m3 on top gear (so did the rx-8!), however. so there are a lot of conflicting track tests and it isn't totally clear whether the z or m3 is more capable all around track car. it IS clear that stock for stock, the m3 will destroy a z in a straight line though.
Post Edited (Apr 14, 1:02am)
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It's possible for the Z and the M3 to have the same lap time on a track. It all depends on the layout for the track. Since we know the Z handles corners better than the M3, if the track was baised more towards sharp corners then it'd be easier for the Z to keep up with the M3. If the track was more of a fast track (more straights) then the M3 would be faster.
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Typically better tracks, Laguna Seca or Mid Ohio for example have lots of curves. We're not talking NASCAR or funny cars here, we're talking sports cars (I'm giving the BMW sedan the benefit of the doubt). Winning in a straight line makes as much sence as having a car that handles great but has little HP. Either one is only half a car - it's the total package that matters.
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i did not say straightline peformance made the m3 a "better" car.
Post Edited (Apr 15, 1:23am)