A&Q about 350Z
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I have a friend that just got a new 2006 ford mustang GT.... He keeps on taunting me everyday he sees me that he wants to race and that his GT will take me out and that it’s a better car ECT...... I am a good driver and he told me that he is going to be at the drag strip this Saturday. I know that my 350z is a much much better car but I have seen some little kids out there that have lost to the GT, maybe it’s because they can’t drive.. should I race him?
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Race him. Whether you lose or not at least you'll know.
Now, if he's one of those annoying d!cks who will never let you forget it...then maybe re-consider.
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yeah, if hes a good driver as well, my money would be on the Mustardstain. Anything can happen on the strip though. Its a drivers race really. But the 350Z looks much better, so really, you've already won.
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That my friend, is why they make twin turbos for 350Zs, ha. Now I know that is not very sporting and actually not even fair, but who says I want to be fair? he he. I know they can also modify their cars, but I don't want it to even be close with a stock or near stock GT. There have been delays with my getting my turbo kit installed but then the GTs, stock Cobras and c-6s better watch out! ha I know somebody always has more power. But that is why racing is FUN. Look at it that way.
In answer to your question I think a stock manual '06 GT is a little quicker than a stock manual 350Z in the qtr mile, all things being equal. But yes if you drive well and he screws up you should win I would think. Wish I could help more, I have raced a lot of GTs (260 hp) prior to the current generation (300 hp) at the drag strip. And I have always won quite easily, but again that was against the prior generation GTs. But I have never raced a current generation GT. I run 14.1s on a hot day and 13.9s on a cool day. I am pure stock 350Z.
This is an interesting concept, but Snow performance has a water/methanol injection kit that can be installed on 350Zs. That might get you 10 to 12 more hp. They also will sell you a little bottle of nitromethane that you can add to the reservoir of the water/methanol injection kit. he he. And they say if you don't add more nitromethane than recommended, this is safe for your engine and you won't run lean. I have no idea if that statement is true. And they say this is sort of a one shot deal for "that one big race". They said this will add about 40 to 50 hp to a stock 350Z. And of course you KNOW that anything in life worth having is worth cheating for....... click on the website below and I won't tell if you don't tell, ha. Yes, I know I should be ashamed of myself, but he (the GT) may be cheating too, ha! So YOU better cheat before he does and bring a bigger stick. ha Only kidding but you be the judge of how you want to play this thing out.
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Post Edited (Jun 1, 1:02pm)
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His car is much friendly, and actually built for drag racing. His rear end is a lot more controllable. He has a slight advantage, but unless one car is more than a second faster than another, it is ALWAYS a driver's race. I see vipers and c6's hitting high 12's all day, whereas a stock 290hp NSX can run the same times? Can an nsx beat a viper? COURSE NOT! Does it? Depends who is driving...
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well i just put on the new bfg g force tires on my 350z so i hope it will help
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If you are serious make sure to put the air pressure up to the max in the front and lower it to 16-18psi in the back. Don't do any burnouts but if your tires get cold it may help you [contrary to what people will tell you].
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Yes I have seen guys "go to sleep" at the light while the other guy cuts a great light at the start. I've had guys lose more than half a second to me at the light. There went the Mustang's advantage and some more besides right there if you can cut a great light and he can't. Now that's a big IF, of course, but it means it is definitely a driver's race. sometimes someone redlights and loses before the race even starts. I beat a 10 second turbo grand national that way with my low 12 sec. turbo mitsu eclipse (former car) that very way. A win is a win and I'll take it like that if I can get it. good luck. Racing is fun, regardless. I have won a lot of drag races by less than one foot and I have lost just as many by less than one foot. I won runner up in the trophy class one time last year in my 350Z and I could have sworn the guy in the 2nd round eliminatins beat me to the flag, but it was soooooooooo close. And the electric eye said I won...
Post Edited (Jun 1, 1:17pm)
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I do just enough of a burn out to clean my tires off real good and that seems to help. I run 2.0 sec sixty ft times on the stock 17" wheels and tires. That's pretty good. It also depends also on how the track is set up. So my advice to you is to go to the drag strip a couple of weekends before you race him and get comfortable with your launch technique and cutting lights. This does a WORLD of good. To me, it's all about getting comfortable with the whole process of staging, cutting the light, and launching the car. Has this guy done a lot of drag racing vs. your own experience? That will make a lot of difference. There is a guy where I race with a stock evo and the best he can run is 15s. He is a bad driver as that car runs good and is capable of much better times. He either bogs the car or comes off the line bucking like a bronco. So refine your own techniques and that will give you your best chance. If you are near MD and the GT is pure stock, I'll be glad to race him.
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make a video! 2 great cars going at each other :)!
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"There is a guy where I race with a stock evo and the best he can run is 15s. He is a bad driver as that car runs good and is capable of much better times. He either bogs the car or comes off the line bucking like a bronco."
That is a crappy driver if they blow a launch with an Turbo AWD car.
But I do agree that the start is crucial. I have run motorcycles at the drag strip and it is very easy to "red light".
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mattman wrote:
> "There is a guy where I race with a stock evo and the best he
> can run is 15s. He is a bad driver as that car runs good and is
> capable of much better times. He either bogs the car or comes
> off the line bucking like a bronco."
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> That is a crappy driver if they blow a launch with an Turbo AWD
> car.
>
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Yes, he is a horrible driver. I used to have an HKS stage VI awd mitsu eclplise turbo gsx (a similar setup) and the car is not hard to launch (but you eventually will need a stronger than stock clutch.). I keep thinking the "no talent" police will step in and arrest him for crimes against the asthetics of performance cars and racing, ha but true. I think I may talk to him about this but I don't want to interfere unless he wants help. I think he is maybe afraid to launch the car hard and so he bogs/stalls the car like hell most of the time. Then by the time the car catches it's breath and the turbo spools up, a lot of wasted time has transpired. It is ugly. It hurts me to watch good machinery treated like this.
I used to run 1.7 sec. 60 ft. times in my eclipse awd on the stock all season tires and it was pretty easy to get a good launch.
Post Edited (Jun 1, 3:31pm)
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the mustang should win. if it doesn't he did something wrong. it has a significant amount more torque than our Zs.
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yeah, there were a bunch of EVO's at the drags a couple weeks ago. One guy would do horrible launches (ie bucking like a bronco) and would run a low 15. A few others ran high 14's as well. Then one guy ran close to a 14 flat. I was a bit disappointed in all of there times.
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Itll be a drivers race.
Also with the air pressure the front idea is ok but lowering the air pressure in a steel belted radial tire that low can cause cupping where the center of the tread actually cups towards the wheels giving you less of a contact patch. 16psi might be to low thats something youve got to play with its not tire specific just remember going to low will hurt you.
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Like you said you're a good driver, then all you need is a little preparation. And yes it's a driver's race with these two cars. The question is, are you running with a modified wheels? If so, how big is it? If you have those guys who have 19in. or 20in. and you have a stock 287 HP, then you might wanna think twice.
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OK, if you decide to run him in the quarter mile then remove as much weight as possible from your Z, such as the spare tire, jack, etc. Any weight savings will help. Also go to the track with a quarter tank of gas. This will save weight too. The 350Z is not a light car to begin with. I read where you can save 1/10 of a second through the 1/4 mile for every 100 LBs. you take off a car. Let's hope your buddy is a fat pig!!!! (ha ha)
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Hey good point. I always "time" it so when I get to the drag strip, I only have about an eighth of a tank of gas. In order to cut down on weight. i think gas weighs about 8 lbs per gallon. The old drag racing rule of thumb is that 100 lbs. equals 10hp eguals one tenth second in the qtr. mile. Like you said. I also take out my spare and the tool kit out. I should have remembered to say that, thanks for doing it. If I get dangerously low on fuel, I can buy a gallon gas at the track. But i've never had to do that. Like you said you may gain a tenth to 2 tenths of a second cutting down on all easily removed weight and a tenth of a second is also roughly equal to a car length at the end of a qtr. Every little bit helps.
Make sure your air filter is relatively new as well.
Be sure to turn TCS off!!!!!! That sounds like a no brainer, but I usually keep my motor turned off as much as possible as the line of cars moves down toward the staging area. Keeps engine as cool as possible. Well that last time you start your engine is the time you have to remember to turn TCS off as it defaults back to "on" at each start up. Well one time, ha, I got right up there and pre-staged, TCS turned off, had done my little burn out to clean off the tires just before staging, but at the last second before staging the staging guy told me to back out as the car before my run had a problem of some sorts down at the far end of the track. So I backed out and cut my motor off.
Guess what, like a dufus I forgot to turn my tcs off when he finally gave us the go sign again and I refired the engine back up! Doh! Trust me, the TCS turned "on" does NOT give you the best launch possible. Not by a long shot. Now if it seems to help, then you are doing something else wrong. I have tried everthing and now I run good consistent 2.0 sec. 60 ft times, considering I have stock 17" wheels/tires, with TCS off. If it is on, it cuts power and stifles your momentum compared to a real good launch with TCS off. It is embarrassing but I did forget to do that one time. But only once. And I lost a close race during the 3rd round of eliminations because of TCS! That I would have won. I immediately realized it but too late.
I have looked into changing the system so that TCS is off as the default until you turn it on. We tried that but it is not that easy. But it would be just one less thing to think off while staging if you could default tcs to off. Things are happening at the starting line of a drag race more quickly than one thinks if you have never drag raced. You have to get staged, get your launch rpm like you want it, focus on getting the timing of the lights in your mind in anticipation, and as soon as that second set of yellow fully staged lights come "on" as you are inching forward to stage....the Christmas tree lights may begin to fall. Or there may be a delay if the other guy has not staged, but you won't know till it happens. It is a little more to sort out than you think if you have never raced. I only screwed this up once, but it did cost me. Who cares it was only one race. But you do not want to lose your big match race with this guy because of a brain cramp like I had, ha. These little things are often the difference between winnng and losing. But racing is fun, regardless! It does give you an adrenalin rush. And it gets some of that out of you so it is easier to behave on the street. In theory anyways...ha. Have a nice weekend and Good Luck!!!!
Post Edited (Jun 2, 1:02pm)
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Put a sticky note in the middle of the steering wheel "TCS OFF".
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I own both a 350Z and a 2005 Mustang GT, here's my 2 cents.
How about acceleration?
For acceleration, I give the edge to my Stang. They're 0-60 and 1/4 times are close (350Z 5.4 - 5.6, 14.1 @ 101 MPH vs Stang 5.1 - 5.3, 13.9 @ 104 mph), but I know my stang will beat it in a tight race, with professional drivers in both cars. But if we're talking about average drivers here, then its a close race.
I'm assuming both drivers are the same level so the edge would have to go to the Stang.
How about a track?
At an oval track, top speed for the Z is 150 - 155 mph and the Stang is 145 - 150 mph so that would be another close race, but I'd probably give the edge to my Z.
At an autocross, I would have to give the edge to my Z, again. Its tighter suspension and lower profile would give it better handling around the tight curves and turns.
But, if I added suspension upgrades to my Stang, I think it will hang with my Z.
JT
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05 stang is the shiznet!!!!!!!
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top speed for the z is 156.
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justin eats glue
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i took it out of your fridge.
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'73 240Z
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nothing wrong with eating glue...
but i particularly like to pour it all over my hands and peel off the little pieces of dried glue that take the shape of my finger prints...
i'm just wierd like that... ok?
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ok
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nail bar = place where you get your nails, done, manicures.... kinda glad u didn't know.
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OOOHHH... i just call them salons... barber shops usually do nails too here... i kinda like to do my own nails... cause if you want it done right... you do it yourself...
but i only do it maybe once every 6 months or so... i don't polish or anything but i use a swisa-ka nail buffer and it does a really good job... but in my line of work it just doesn't last to long... so it's kinda pointless...
other than that... i don't really bother... i also have a bad habit of chewing on my nails... i picked it up in my very young years...
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HA!! I get a chuckle when people on the Mustang and Z sites compare the two because they all say the same thing.
Stangers all say that the Z is ugly, unimpressive, or alright and the Zers say that the same thing.
I own both a 350Z and Stang, not only because of they way the look and perform, but because of my family's history of own them and, also, because both are great sports cars with a legendary past.
I enjoy the luxury of having the best of both worlds.
If I'm planning on driving in hilly and curving roads, I'll cruise in the Z, but if I want go on the open road then I'll cruise in the Stang.
I can do anything with both. The hard part is deciding which car to take each day. Now, if I could just clone myself, the problem will be solved.
JT
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Post Edited (Jun 5, 5:34pm)
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give it another few years... soon enough all you will have to do is call a hotline with your social... and they will mail you a coffee can labeled
"just add water"
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good.. i love coffee.
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too bad there will be a dehydrated human lifeform in there...
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