A&Q about 350Z
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deluzrider,
you are so cool. a legend in your own mind. here's another word that rhymes with cool...fool.
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maybe you and staticivi03 could meet up and race. two knuckleheads who need a life
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He obviously didn't smoke the WRX either... WRXs are right around the same quickness as the Z, and they do quite well at autocross.
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I think enough's been said...
But to quote Steve Martin in the classic Planes Trains and Automobiles (with a little bit of added inference of my my own):
"Don't race [on public roads], thats ridiculous!"
Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
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the road i raced on never has traffic and is way away from town at like 2 in the morning. i didnt see one car the whole time we were out there which was bout 2 hours with a bunch of people. sweet lord how old r all u guys.
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Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
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You say you were out there with a bunch of people, but you didn't see any cars....did they all walk, or did they drive cars? Did they park and hike to the road you guys raced on?
Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
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im 22, being old has nothing to do with it...being mature, yes. however, i dont want to be a hypocrite so as ive said in other street racing posts...theres a time and a place. It sounds like you had the right idea, if the only people that could be injured in a wreck is you and the other driver, then more power to you
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bashing this guy will not make him slow down. it will simply make him refrain from telling us about it on this forum.
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'73 240Z
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If he never posts again, that's fine by me. But he will post because he's a hip young dude and can't help bragging on himself.
Who pays for the mess his accident on a lonely road causes at 2:00 in the morning? Every one of his neighbors: for the EMTs that show up; for the transportation to the county hospital where all 911 cases go; for the services provided at the county hospital; for the doctors, nurses, and medicines at the county hospital.
Idiot kid. Thinks he lives in a vacuum. Stupid.
Post Edited (Apr 3, 8:10pm)
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A lot of it with the wrx or any car is the driver as I'm sure you guys know. I drag raced my 350Z some last summer (at an off road, legal drag strip) and there was a stock evo there which has a turbo and awd as most of you know. (similar to the wrx) He was there every week I was there and the evo driver could not do better than low 15s for the qtr.! The guy was just a terrible driver. He would bog the car to no end or bring it off the line bucking like a damn bronco. He is a nice kid, but does not have a clue. I kept hoping the no-talent police were going to step in and arrest him on general principles for crimes against the aesthetics of performance cars and racing. I used to own and race a similar set up mitsu eclipse turbo awd during the early 90s. That car was not hard to launch and I'm sure the evo is not either. It just hurt my gear-head sensitivity to see someone torture and torment good machinery like that. If he is back this year and no better, I'd like to discuss it with him but I don't want to intrude unless he wants help.
Post Edited (Apr 3, 7:47pm)
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Common guys. Like you don't have a little fun when you are on a twisty road. It's not like they were trying to overtake eachother going into on coming traffic. It's just one guy taking the lead with both of them taking the turns. Whats the point of owning a Z or a sports car in general if you aren't going to have a little fun with it. Might as well get a civic or something. So had had he posted about just being out by himself on a curvy road having some fun would you be bashing him? I doubt it becuase I've read posts like that before and the response are always positive feedback. Had he posted about him racing the WRX on a freeway at noon doing 100+ mph then I could see these kinds of comments.
To the original poster I say glad you had fun. Was it a WRX or a WRX STI? I test drove the WRX and after driving it I thought to myself how my 280z would probably keep up with it in the curves. It sticks to the road but has some body roll. Now the STI is a different story. With a good driver the STI should pull away from the Z in the turns. Still, it's fun going canyon carving in a Z.
1977 280z: Intake, exhaust, high flow cat, header, euro damper, cam, MSD, adj. FPR, 3.7 lsd, F+R sway+strut bars, 2580lbs
1984 300zx: intake, exhuast, high flow cat, headers, JWT ECU, F+R sway bars, F strut bar
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ya i dont know why i would stop posting. and ya some people drove than parked but we saw no traffic. i also love the cool fool rhyme. u guys should try rapping. that was pretty sweet man. and the fact is no one got hurt. and if any one would have it would have been someone racing not traffic because there was none. at the track it would have been the same result if a mistake occured. someone who was racin. but keep ryhming though.
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thanx 280z/300zx. it was just a wrx. the kid jus bought it so he wasnt that great of a driver either i dont think. im pretty sure a sti would smash on a z too.
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umm...daddyg... sorry i don't race other Zs...
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Nothing wrong with enjoying some windy roads, just use some caution, even if you are 'racing'. It is easy to go beyond your limits.
For drag racing, I agree, just take it to the track even if it is an hour drive, just makes it more exciting.
However, very few people can afford to road race regularly. Cheapest I've found is several hundred dollars for a weekend, and that'll kill your stock tires if they have any wear on them and brake pads easily, not to mention a few tanks of gas. Road racing, plainly, is either for rich or very devoted people.
Therefore, just take it easy on those windy [what's the difference between wind-y and w[eye]ndy, lol] roads, especially if you haven't done it too many times.
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Street racing ultimately becomes a game of brinksmanship. He who has a only a modicum of talent, but no regard for his or others' safety, or a true understanding of what the risks are, will stick his neck out WAY further than a more talented driver who has the tiniest amount of respect and understands what's at stake.
Track days are not all that expensive relative to a car in the ditch or much much much worse. Until you've driven at the track, you do not KNOW what real performance driving is about.
As for the relative capabilities of a well-driven stock WRX vs. a well-driven stock 350Z, scroll down to "Showroom Stock GT" results here:
Pretty damn close.
And if you wanna know how fast a mildly modded 240Z is relative to those, scroll back up to "Street Prepared B" results.
:P
Post Edited (Apr 6, 4:58pm)
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agreed dan: i've never been to the tracks but i would relish the opportunity... i would like to do a little handleing courses first...y'know the ones where you simply drive around a track...not really racing...
then go to full on road racing on track... i still have a big itch to go up against a gt stang, camaro, and s2k...
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Shorty Antenna (Stolen!!! Thanks alot!)
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staticivi03,
Track days is all I do. Never done any "real" racing ('cept a practice race at an SCCA school), just track days and time trials. LOTS less bodywork involved that way:)
Zlover et al,
The adjective for describing curvy roads is "WINDING", not "WINDY". When I saw the subject for this thread, I thought someone was complaining about how his relatively light, slab-sided car was being tossed around by crosswinds!
[edit: OOPS! It's another thread in another forum that incorrectly refers to WINDING roads as "windy" in the subject line! Poor grasp of the language, it's a freaking EPIDEMIC! (I may be scatter-brained, but at least I can express myself in a semi-literate manner. Sometimes.)]
Regarding tire and brake pad wear at the track, it's not all that bad. And a set of tires and pads is CHEAP compared to the fun you'll have and how much you'll LEARN, and relative to the DAMAGE you can do getting in over your head on the street, where conditions are more of an unknown and there's often opposing traffic.
If track driving is only for rich or devoted people, then street racing is only for people who have not made an even remotely accurate evaluation of what they're actually risking and actually gaining.
Risk/reward is FAR more favorable at the track. Tremendously reduced risk, tremendously greater reward. The dollars involved are pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things.
I generally drive like a fricking grandma on the street. If the winged Civic next to me revving his engine thinks I'm just slow, that's fine by me. Don't get sucked into bullshit games by morons!
Post Edited (Apr 6, 6:29pm)
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i wish i had a track around me but there isnt one. a lot of winding and during the spring windy roads. jk. i would really love to go to a track but im not also about to drive like 8 hours to wherever for a track than pay over a 100 bucks when i get there. it is much easier to go somewhere where no one is at with friends that yes did drive there but are out of the way (for all u safety critics in here) and have a little fun cat and mouse racing. which means no one passes the other person.
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You don't live in a vacuum, kid. You wreck, someone pays to pull you out and keep you alive until you get to the hospital and then either recover or die. Or your "empty" road finds an innocent coming the other way and it all starts over again.
You're going to do what you want to do. Because you're young and so smart and can rationalize your actions. Good for you.
And good luck.
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Yea, you should have smoked him in the twisties. The WRX in stock form has a great suspension for dirt roads....that's about it. I'm talking from experience here as I own an 02 WRX. Even the STI's suspension is considered soft for the track. Always getting beat by the much tighter EVO's setup. The first thing I did was buy new rims/tires, springs/shocks, and sway bars. It became a completely different car. I can floor it coming out of hairpins and it feels like my front tires dig into the road like claws when the rear end breaks loose. There is no slowing down when power goes to all the tires. You just have to be brave enough to push it to that level....on a track of course.
I'm not sure what rubber the factory is putting on WRX's these days, but back then it came with some R92's that couldn't grip at all. That and the endless wheel travel didn't do much for traction on the street. In stock form the Z's suspension is far superior for road/track racing. Plus the Z doesn't suffer from turbo lag. There were plenty of times I was beaten by other cars with less power than mine because I didn't know how to drive it yet.
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