A&Q about 350Z
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i was wondering what do you guys see more on the road 350 Zs or G35s where i'm at i see more G35s and that kinda pisses me off lol,cause i know the Z is a far better car...!!!
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Im curious. How is the Z a far better car?
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Yeah from what I understand about both, the G coupe and the 350Z are pretty much identical mechanically. The only real difference, other than body shape, would be the extra 80lbs of sound dampening material and the rear seats that they put into infinitis.
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hm.
Post Edited (Jan 22, 6:19pm)
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i see the 350z at least 4 times a day on the way to school
so i guess 3 out of 5 are 350s
'1996 Black NA 2+0
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I see more Zs here seems like. About 2 to 1. Maybe not that drastic a difference in #s. But you can't base much of anything by MD/Baltimore/DC and applicable drivers. This is a CRAZY place to drive, LOL and whew! Case in point below. If any of you EVER visit this area, remember these tips:
> For those of you who have lived/worked/commuted in DC; you already know
> most of this and if you have moved out of the area; it brings a smile that you
> no longer have to put up with it on a daily basis. For those of you who have
> not spent time in the DC area - pay attention - these are true facts.
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> First, you must learn to call it by its rightful name. It is D.C., or
> "the District". Only tourists call it Washington.
>
> Next, if your road map of Montgomery County is more than a few weeks old,
> throw it out and buy a new one. It's obsolete. If in Loudoun or Fairfax County
> and your map is one day old, it's already obsolete.
>
> There is no such thing as a dangerous high-speed chase in D.C. It's just
> another chase, usually on the BW Parkway.
>
> All directions start with "The Beltway"...which has no beginning and no
> end, just one continuous loop that locals believe is somehow clarified by an
> "inner" and "outer loop" designation. This makes no sense to ANYONE outside the
> Beltway.
>
> The morning rush hour is from 5 to 11 AM. The evening rush hour is from 1
> to 8 PM. Friday's rush hour starts Thursday morning, especially during the
> summer on Route 50 eastbound.
>
> If there is a ball game at the Redskins stadium, there is no point in
> driving anywhere near PG County.
>
> Tip: Never say PG County to anyone from Mitchellville, Upper Marlboro or
> Fort Washington. They'll blow a vessel in their neck and go into a seizure.
>
> If you actually stop at a yellow light, you will be rear-ended and shot
> at. If you run the red light, be sure to smile for the $100 picture you will
> receive courtesy of DMV. (However, if you don't go as soon as the light turns
> green, you will get cussed out in 382 languages, none of them English.)
>
> Rain causes an immediate 50 point drop of IQ in drivers. Snow causes an
> immediate 100 point drop in IQ and a rush to the Giant for toilet paper and
> milk.
>
> Don't forget that if your destination is only a mile away, it will take at
> least 30 minutes to get there due to traffic congestion, the idiot in the BMW
> SUV who thinks he has to conduct a conference call to negotiate world peace
> while swerving all over the world, the scores of newcomers who decide to cross
> the road when there's a mass of cars coming at them going 80 mph thus causing
> everyone to slam on their brakes which leads to...an accident..., and the
> sadistic people who have to stare at the fender bender.
>
> Construction on I-270 is a way of life and a permanent source of scorn and
> cynical entertainment. It's ironic that it's called an "Interstate" but runs
> only from Bethesda to Frederick. (Unless you consider Montgomery County another
> state, which some do.) Opening in the 60's, it has been torn up and under
> construction ever since. Also, it has a "Spur" section which is even more
> confusing. All unexplained sights are explained by the phrase, "Oh, we're in
> Takoma Park".
>
> If someone actually has their turn signal on, they are by definition, a
> tourist. Car horns are actually "Road Rage" indicators. Heed the warning. All
> old ladies in Buicks have the right of way in the area of Leisure World.
>
> Many roads mysteriously change their names as you cross intersections.
> Don't ask why, no one knows. If you stop to ask directions in Southeast...well,
> just don't...unless you're asking directions to the nearest drug dealer or
> looking to buy guns.
>
> A taxi ride across town will cost you $12.50. A taxi ride two blocks will
> cost you $16.75 (It's a zone thing; you wouldn't understand.)
>
> Traveling south out of DC on Interstate 395/295/95 is the most dangerous,
> scariest thing you will ever do. There is nothing more comforting then seven
> lanes of traffic cruising along at 85 mph. BUMPER TO BUMPER!!!
>
> The minimum acceptable speed on the Beltway is 85. Anything less is
> considered downright sissy. The Beltway is our daily version of a NASCAR
> reality show. Strap up and collect points as you go. The open lane for passing
> on all Maryland interstates is the far right lane because no self-respecting
> Marylander would ever be caught driving in the "slow" lane. Unofficially, both
> shoulders are fair game also. The far left lanes on all Maryland interstates
> are official "chat" lanes reserved for drivers who wish to talk on their cell
> phones.
>
> Note: All mini-vans and SUV's have priority clearance to use the far left
> at whatever speed the driver feels most comfortable multi-tasking in.
>
> If it's 10 degrees, it's Orioles' opening day.
> If it's 110 degrees, it's the Skins opening day.
> If the humidity is 90+ and the temperature is 90+, then it's May, June,
> July, August, September, and sometimes October.
>
> Always remember this little rule on the Metro: Stand right, walk left.
> People WILL knock you down the Metro escalator and shout nasty things -- again,
> in every dialect known to man EXCEPT English -- if you do not follow this little
> rule. DC'ers are busy, important people who don't have time to stand behind the
> 40 kids in Boy Scout Troop 325 visiting from Nowhere, Nebraska. And we'll tell
> you that too!
>
> A handy-dandy tip when bar hopping: Unless you're on a first-name basis
> with the President, Condy Rice, certain Senators or Representatives, or Donald
> Rumsfield...you get the idea..no one cares about you or your life story. Again,
> DC'ers are busy, important people who only want to talk to other busy, important
> people. We are not friendly folks looking to meet new likeminded people; we
> only want to know what you can do for us..otherwise, get out of the way and stop
> boring us.
>
> You eventually grow to appreciate the loony people who leave strange
> boxes, usually full of refrigerator parts or fans, near buildings, or the idiot
> pilots who can't see the BIG WHITE HOUSE that every 3rd grader in the nation
> would identify by sight.
>
> You'll appreciate the pilot in a no fly zone because it means that you'll
> get a day off due to our place of work being evacuated. And it won't count as a
> vacation!!
Post Edited (Jan 22, 7:05pm)
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i see about the same number of both.
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Yeah, I see equal numbers too.
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now that i travel to keller, watauga, and roanoake for my job, i see more Zs there than in the DFW area...but i never go to Dallas, at least not when i can avoid it...
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Hey zazupilot i dont know if your a 350Z owner or a G35,but i can say for sure the Z is the best car in the world for its price ....lets say you spend $35.000 and another $15.000 (approx) for a very good turbo kit thats like $50.000 now come on this car is even better than a 911 porsche...besides to do that to a porsche you need $100.000.Well to make it short the Z handles better and is faster than the G because of the lighter weight .This conversation is over.. the g35 is a luxery car.. the Z is a SPORTS CAR... and the engine in the Z is tuned to be a sports car engine.. the g35 is not...The Z is a true performance car and a true 2seater sports car. Games over!!
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Well dude, I hate to say it but I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
The 350Z have the same engine, almost the same specs. In fact, the G35 engine is (In my opinion, others will disagree naturally) better tuned with 280HP 270ft/lbs, compared to the newer Z engine that has 300HP but only 260ft/lbs of torque. Also, the G35 comes with a better coefficient of drag of only .29 w/o any spoiler. The 350Z is .30 or .29 with the help of a front and rear spoiler.
Now the suspension is identical between the G35 coupe and 350Z, so the handling will be nearly the same. With the back seats and sound dampening material, it is heavier at 3,480lbs, but it also manages to maintain almost the exact same front/rear weight distribution as the 350Z.
So yes, all in all the G35 is heavier than the 350Z. But with a torqier engine, better aerodynamics, same suspension, same handling, same weight distribution, its really not going to be a whole heck of a lot slower. Both cars are equally sporty.
I'd say its pretty much a tie between the G35 and the 350Z (unless you're talking specifically about the sedan G35). Both are sporty, and both are in reality designed to be touring cars. The only downside to the G35 coupe is the price is more than the 350Z.
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1985 300ZX n/a
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I dont mean to burst your bubble "Sharp" - but the 350Z and G35 coupe are very close in almost every category. Agreed the Z has the edge over the G car but only by a small margin. Hardly a "far better car".
sample timeslips
2003 Nissan 350z 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.1 seconds
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe 0-60 in 5.5, 1/4 mile in 14.2 seconds
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the letter " Z" only means one thing to me............ HERITAGE!!
There is something special about the 350z!!! The continuation of a marque just says that.The G35 maybe a nice car and have all the same things or close to the same but it is not the "Z" If you want a sports car
and i do mean a sports car, 2 seats and raw power you get the "Z". If you want a car to carry your golf clubs and take the kids to school and load up your friends for dinner then by all means get your g35.To me the g35 is the want to be sports car. I guess it is kinda a sports car with 2 extra seats minus the heritage........ Just my 2 cents .
I do notice that all the g35's want to race my 350 in my area to prove that they are just as fast. Does not matter how fast you drive, they will never have heritage......
drzee
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Look guys both awesome cars..........if you want a backseat and a little more luxery then get the g35, but if you want more of a racer look and a little more speed then get the Z..... I feel the Z has that exotic look i love the sportiness look well i'm a sporty type of guy so i think the z is far better car for me.But thanks guys for the comments.Though zazupilot i think you like the z more am i wrong?
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williamzzzzz 100% i agree with you man you said somethin very smart '' the g35 is the want to be sports car '' no more comments lol games over!!!
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Actually phxz31 you are wrong but the correction will only further support your statement. The G35 now comes with the same engine as the 350z, basicly. The 06 350z has 300hp and 260 torque. The G35 has 298hp and 260 torque. So aside from a 2hp difference it's the same motor. Also the 300hp/260 torque VQ motor is called a rev-up motor which I haven't figured out too much about except that for what ever reason it seems to put more hp to the rear wheels than the non rev-up VQ. In the last Sport Z mag when they did testing on VQ parts I was surprised to see that the stock 06 Z/G was putting out more power (hp and torque)than the older Z/G. So essentially this no motor while making less torque at the crank still puts out more hp and torque to the wheels than the older motor.
As for which car is better all I've seen is personal opinion except from phxz31. If you are going to compare two cars stick to facts like phxz31 did. The facts show that in every category that you can compare cars the Z is just as good as the G and vise versa. So did everyone think that the 2+2 versions of the previous Z's were just "wana be sports cars?" Come on, the 2+2 version of the 300zx both Z31 and Z32 was used more in racing than the coupe due to a longer wheel base which helped with handling. The G35 is just a luxary 2+2 version of the Z badged with an infiniti logo. I can't see where the G35 really is worse off than the 350z. And "the Z is a SPORTS CAR", I don't think so. Sports cars are what car companies used to make, now they are GT cars with all the luxary crap they come with. You want a sports car thats a Z, then get an S30.
1977 280z: Intake, exhaust, high flow cat, header, euro damper, cam, MSD, adj. FPR, 3.7 lsd, F+R sway+strut bars, 2580lbs
1984 300zx: intake, exhuast, high flow cat, headers, JWT ECU, F+R sway bars, F strut bar
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"Also, the G35 comes with a better coefficient of drag of only .29 w/o any spoiler. The 350Z is .30 or .29 with the help of a front and rear spoiler."
And believe it or not, the G35 sedan is actually slicker, at .27/.26 (not that anyone would be able to tell the difference...), it weighs no more than the coupe (only ~100 lb. heavier than the Z), 298hp, 6-speed, with leather, etc. for $31,850 (vs. $33,055 for Z w/leather, $34,450 for G35 Coupe). Dang, I might just have to get one o' those, what a perfect sleeper 4-door sports car!
Post Edited (Jan 24, 3:00pm)
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sorry can't agree with the very last portion of your comment... a 4 door is NEVER a sports car... a sport/sedan MAYBE...but never a true sports car... i don't even call a two door civic a sports car but that's what it is classified as in insurance... but i just name it a two door econo car...
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In So. OC I see 2 to 1 G35 Coupes over Zs.
The Z is a 2 seater sports car, the G35 is a wanna be sports car.
-Zanioed '03 Le Mans Sunset Touring Coupe w/ Nav.
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I know the sedan doesn't share any body parts with the coupe, but they're still on the same basic PLATFORM design, which is a totally DIFFERENT platform from the Maxima/Altima platform.
You said in your earlier post: "The G35 sedan is built on a different frame and chassis altogether, and its actually identical to the newer Maxima chassis"
But NOW you're saying "The G35 coupe and Sedan almost no common parts other than the engine and basic frame."?
Which is it!
I find it hard to believe that the FM/V35 G35 4-door's "frame and chassis" have more in common with the transverse-engined, fwd FF-L/A34 Maxima than with the FM/CPV35 G35 Coupe and FM/Z33 350Z. Where did you hear that anyway?
But hey, I've been wrong before!
Just curious...
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the g definitly looks wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better. aero package, wing, drool
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"I find it hard to believe that the FM/V35 G35 4-door's "frame and chassis" have more in common with the transverse-engined, fwd FF-L/A34 Maxima than with the FM/CPV35 G35 Coupe and FM/Z33 350Z. Where did you hear that anyway?"
Well the Maxima has always been transverse (actually its first incarnation was RWD, but all others are FWD). The last two Maximas were built on the A32 and A33 chassis' respectively. When Nissan released the I30 under the Infiniti name, it was also released on the same A32 or A33 chassis, just had a different front and rear crossmember to allow the different drivetrain layout. Actually, the older Maxima and I30, though used the exact same chassis, were even more different than the current Maxima vs. G35 sedan.
For example: even though both the last maxima and the I30 shared the same A33 chassis, they were completely different platforms. Maxima: Transverse engine, FWD, rear solid beam suspension. I30: conventional engine layout, RWD, independent rear suspension. So we have two very different cars with very different platforms, built on the same exact chassis.
Nissan has since changed a lot of their chassis codes nomenclature since 2003 though. That is why the 350Z and G35 coupe, although they do actually share the same frame, have different chassis codes. Also, the G35 Sedan shares the same frame as the 04+ Maxima, different chassis codes no doubt (I haven't been able to find the chassis codes for the latest Maxima or Altima). The FX shares the same frame as the Murano, but again they have a completely different platform. (The murano shares its drivetraine with the latest Quest minivan)
All of this info I got while I worked at Midway Nissan/Infiniti. Obviously some of it is subject to error as well. Neither I nor the people I worked with actually helped build the cars... but we were supposed to at least know what we were talking about incase somebody asked, and this is the info I was given.
Does anybody know the chassis codes for the newest maxima and/or altima? I looked through all the material I had while I worked at the dealership but found nothing at all...
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Post Edited (Jan 25, 11:59pm)
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So essentially sharing the same chassis doesn't mean the share the same platform? So the chassis is what the parts are bolted to but the platform is the design of of how the parts are bolted? Do I have this right?
1977 280z: Intake, exhaust, high flow cat, header, euro damper, cam, MSD, adj. FPR, 3.7 lsd, F+R sway+strut bars, 2580lbs
1984 300zx: intake, exhuast, high flow cat, headers, JWT ECU, F+R sway bars, F strut bar
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I see three G35 coupes to one 350Z here in So. Orange County CA.
-Zanioed '03 Le Mans Sunset Touring Coupe w/ Nav.
Post Edited (Jan 26, 8:03pm)
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Gs are so much better looking than the 350s its' almost like it was the car that Nissan should have called the Z. I had one out in my driveway today that had 410hp@rwheels, enough to overcome it's not so lightweight frame. The lines look more in tune with the car itself and no one would ever mistake it for an Audi TT.
As to Audi's, M3, etc. being sports cars, they are simply not. Great sport sedan or coupes, but sports cars, no. But, hey call your car whatever makes you happy. I know from conversations with Mr. K that he doesn't think the 350 is a sports car and was sorry that Nissan couldn't see a way to make one. Too heavy, too big, he said.
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240zg, you make me mad, lol.
Post Edited (Jan 28, 6:03pm)
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Maya, I'm glad that I have made you feel alive today. I'm off now to solve another problem facing this world................