General Chat
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Are you deleting posts because something is mentioned about peta??
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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LOL -- I was reading that post, reloaded the page and it was gone :(
"The Z's disease won't make anything turn black, wither, and fall off, nor turn cancerous." - Tony D
"Take it to a track where BOTH drivers mean business or it's just one sided mechanical masterbation." - Hybrid77z
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maybe no sense of humor?
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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I sure do get a laugh out of the funny posts, but the ones that are not car-related in some way get deleted per the
We cannot read every thread on every board, but we try to read as many as possible. It is a difficult job, but we try to treat all threads and members equally. If you have any questions please feel free to email the moderators.
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ok thanks for the response, i just wanted to make sure that someone elses thread wasnt deleted because of what i had posted. that would be something that i would want to correct on my end had it been the case.
i completly understand the need for posts to be car related and i want to thank you again for responding so fast. have a nice day!
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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Does specifying "NZR" or "NCR" right off the bat help the thread stay alive at all, or do you delete all non-car related threads no matter what?
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Pete1978z: "It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death, I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem take care of itself."
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This particular forum is for automotive related threads that do not fit any other forum. Posts that are not related to cars in some way are usually deleted. The subject heading is not a factor.
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everything relates to cars.
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Like that topic about cats?
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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my neighbors cats leave paw prints on my z. see, related!!!
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People just need to understand that there are a million other boards for off topic discussion, and that the moderators here would prefer that it all stays car related.
Is it seriously that hard to comprehend?
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No.
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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why do some people tag their posts "NZR" in Car Talk? How dumb is that? if it was Z related it would be in one of the other 4 forums.
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Owner of the only ALL-white Shiro Special :)
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i don't know what nzr means. not z related?
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maybe its just me but it seems alot of other car forums have one section where you can post non car things and not have it be an issue. just a section where people from the car forum can talk and post about non car things without having to go to another forum. doesn't seem like a hard thing to add on.
1990na 2+2 5spd.(sold,10/09/05)
If you can't trust a Spanish used car dealer with an English sir name using a Cameroon e-mail account, who can you trust?
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Didn't they used to have such a section and it got abused?
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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banter and chat I believe... too much of a strain on the server with all the BS posted I think.
"The Z's disease won't make anything turn black, wither, and fall off, nor turn cancerous." - Tony D
"Take it to a track where BOTH drivers mean business or it's just one sided mechanical masterbation." - Hybrid77z
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Start a website, Ilya. Then let us know.
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its not about starting a site, it's about people from this forum thats the point, not a separate forum. see other sites for other cars that have an "anything goes" section or a random stuff section. its the point of having it on this site with the people on this site not another site.
1990na 2+2 5spd.(sold,10/09/05)
If you can't trust a Spanish used car dealer with an English sir name using a Cameroon e-mail account, who can you trust?
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agreed.. who cares if it's not car related? if people don't reply to the thread it will die a natural death. if they do reply, then it must be something people here find interesting, so who cares if it's about Zs?
if you're worried about performance of the website archive threads every so often.
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Who cares at all if the non-related thread gets deleted anyway? The mods leave it long enough to get quite a few posts in, then they axe it. It's fun while it lasts...and OTHER car forums may have a BS section but this particular one doesn't. Now, I like my BS just as much as the next man but I really come here to learn more about servicing my car. Sure, I like to post in the silly topics but it doesn't really matter to me whether or not the post gets deleted. :)
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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I greatly appreciate the time, effort and $$$ provided by others to keep this site up. The rules are not mine to make. If I don't like the way the site works my options are clear, just move on to another site or start up one myself.
Rusty but running.
Polish cell phone and two tubes of Aluma-seal.
And, now we are historic.
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zxtoy - I personally thank you for the question and your concern.
I have wondered a few times if my feeble attempts at humor havee killed someones thread.
Tony D seems to take pride in his thread killed ratio.
I don't know. Some very non car related stuff goes on and on so it's probabaly a percentage thing. What the moderators can actually scan.
I do believe they got the point of my good natured jibe since I specifically called it to their attention. They control the site and this will go on as a friendly competion with others I'm sure about slipping things past.
BUT ! Come on now moderators -
you claim it has to be car related - well that gives us a lot of room to discuss:
Cars are related to roads as roads are related to road kill as chickens are related to crossing the road jokes as people at work or insomniacs are in need of a good or mediocre joke as a pick-me-up:
All tech and no play leads to text books.
By the way - I liked the PETA joke - I've had to deal with them and all research hospitals have to be on the look out for the fanatics. Of course the Bird Flu might just be nature's way of getting even for the "Chicken" jokes.
True Story: As a member of a Cowboy Action Shooting group - at an event with 50 + other members in real 1860 -1899 clothing and guns - a PETA type female berrated a cowboy for wearing a bear skin coat - his reply:
Mam - the brear that provided the pelt for this coat died over 100 years ago - I think he's gotten over it by now!
Ed and Jeanne's
ZXelda 1981 280 ZXT: ZXena 1990 300 ZX
1941 Buick Special Sedanette (Betty)
1956 Dodge Royal (Dorothy)
1971 Buick Riviera (Rita)
1975 Ford F-150 Stepside (Fiona)
1992 Firebird (Frieda)
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Ahhhh, the youngsters forget what "Banter & Chat" here at the site turned into...Ignorance is bliss for them I suppose.
It was here, it was tried, it didn't work, it won't be back.
Simple.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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"Tony D seems to take pride in his thread killed ratio."
No, you got it all wrong. There is/was a group of WHINERS here at the site who were always bellyaching that "Anything Tony D posts is O.K., but my stuff is always getting pulled!"
THAT is why that statement is at the bottom of my posts. WHINERS couldn't comprehend the SIMPLE fact that if you keep a subject even REMOTELY Z-Related, and be CIVIL in your discourse and not result to foul epithets and personal comments about someone's family, parentage, or ethnic background, AMAZINGLY your stuff does not get pulled off the forum!
And if you kee that kind of unrelated stuff IN CAR TALK it really stands a good chance it will not be messed with.
On the other hand, you come to the forum, and start using the TECHNICAL SECTION as a PERSONAL AIM SERVER for chat with one person for 76 to 100 threads, damn skippy it's gonna get pulled.
This isn't rocket science!
Photos of kitties, and puppies, and unicorns have a place on a site, JUST NOT THIS ONE unless the puppy is in front of a Z, the Unicorn is hanging from the rearview of the Z, and the Cat is all over the engine of a Z because he crawled up on top the manifold like and IDIOT CAT WILL DO and got chopped up by an early-model's solid Steel Fan!
Simple!
Now, as for "this will go on as a friendly competion with others I'm sure about slipping things past"---that's just stupid. Why waste the time and energy trying to "slip something by" a moderator. You can tell the age of the people on this forum by statements like that. What in someone's psyche compels them to "slip it by?" What could be so important to them that they FEEL COMPELLED to do this kind of action?
I mean, several past members seemed to have a COMPULSION to do so, and PUBLICALLY stated that NOBODY should CENSOR THEM!
Well, as stated before: Start your OWN website. The advertising revenue here is based on the fact that it STAYS ON TOPIC. Think about THAT before you feel COMPELLED to TEST a limit. When they start seeing off-topic crap swarfing up the forums, the advertizers GO AWAY, and THAT means the END of the forum. Period.
You guys want off-topic: GO TO WWW.GOT-Z.COM and exist there---plenty of off topic stuff, anything goes. If you dare, if you can survive, there are initiation rituals, especially if you want to post kitty photos...
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
Post Edited (Jan 16, 7:42am)
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i completely disagree with tony's advertising logic. everyone is here because they love their Z cars. the topics of the threads won't change that.
in addition, the more the moderators try to keep this forum narrow-minded (ie. only Z talk!!!). the more narrow the advertising will be.
if they open it up you still have the same Z folks loving their cars and wanting to buy stuff for them, but you also have a broader range of interests showing up, which could lead to a broader range of products that could potentially be sold via advertising on this forum.
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more like this -- Why did the datsun zcar ( insert chicken here please) cross the road?
to prove to the honda (insert armadillo here please) that it could be done!! haha?
now this would be car related- right?
sorry for this but i just couldnt help myself . hehe!!!!
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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The idea of TARGETED MARKETING is that you can charge higher prices for advertisers and therefore have LESS of them (no popups yet, notice!). This is a better spending of advertising dollars on the advertizers part because they KNOW people who will be in the market for their product will be viewing the forum. Spend time at HybridZ and notice that Innovative WB02 and Megasquirt kits are in the MEGASQUIRT forum! Wonder why?
The problem with letting al lthe swarf in it that it dilutes the content of the site, and therfore dilutes the sites core-ability to draw SPONSORS to the site---KEEPING IT FREE!
I am for anything that keeps it free. Go to Got-Z if you want off-topic conversation. It WAS STARTED AS SUGGESTED! They didn't like the demise of Banter and Chat, so THEY STARTED THEIR OWN SITE.
There are advertisers, but mostly it's out of someone's pocket, and donations (as is Hybrid Z---donations accepted)
There was a "Donate Here" button someplace at one time...
Without money, barring independent wealth, sites will die.
I don't want that.
Disagree if you like, but realities of fiscal responsibility dictate what goes here, not whims wishes and desires of a populace that will give endless commentary, but not ante up a single penny to keep the site going when they call for money!
If you get a lot of different advertisers
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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sites aren't expensive. i have one. costs me about 7 bucks a year for the website name and $9 a month for webspace. price goes up if you have more webspace, but if the only thing you have on the site is a forum then you don't need much space. so all in all costs are minimal. i don't believe they have advertisers to pay for the site as much as it is just to make money.
and like i said, no matter how much chit chat you allow it's not going to change the fact that people come to this forum because they own, want to own, or just enjoy Zs. why else would someone bother coming to a website called zcar.com?
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Justin, if you get alot of traffic coming to the site it costs alot of money to host a site. car club I'm apart of had to get a few hundred bucks for hosting fees paid (which we all chiped in an helped pay for). But with a few sponsors with us now, the cost is going down.
1990 300zx TT Manual (2 Seater)
Sold - 1976 260z 2+2 Turbo, I'll miss you ol friend.
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a few hundred bucks? seems excessive. for 20 bucks a month you can get 25 gigs of transfer and 5000mb of space from the place i get mine, which should easily handle a forum like this. there are also cheaper plans. your club must have been paying ahead.
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Have you done what I suggested?
Have you GONE TO GOT-Z?
If you want to see what Banter and Chat was like GO THERE AND FIND OUT!
And if it's so cheap, like was stated before: START YOUR OWN.
BEFORE you comment further, GO TO THE SITE I SUGGESTED and see if THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT HERE.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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You really don't have a clue as to the traffic at this site, do you?
Hosting at HybridZ (much smaller than here at ZC.C) was nearly $1500 annually.
There's bandwidth, and there's BANDWIDTH.
For $7 a year, I think you are talking about band, or width, but not even a fraction of an inkling, of a thought of the traffic here...
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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i said to get the name of the site is $7/year. that means they pay $7 and they own www.zcar.com. if you think i'm wrong check out www.godaddy.com
i'll even show you an ad.
there may be traffic here, but there are no major downloads. this site doesn't host large files that people download continuously, which would really increase bandwidth usage. you want to see traffic to go www.fileplanet.com. that's some BANDWIDTH for you.
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'05 350Z Chrome Silver Touring
'73 240Z
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GO TO THE SITE!
THEN answer.
Keep skipping around the points, and reverting to "it's not that expensive" which plays right into MAKE YOUR OWN THEN!
But you just won't go to Got-Z will ya?
You want to see what it was here before the change, all you need to do is go there. Many of the oldtimers there were regular posters here, and left when B&C went away.
Blah blah blah blah.....
If it's cheap, make your own. Simple.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
Post Edited (Jan 16, 11:29pm)
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just like i tell the inmates
"if you dont like it bond the hell out"
witch means deal with it or leave
'82 280ZX SILVER
NEEDS WORK
FUN AS HELL
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Hey Tony, bandwidth these days is DIRT chceap.
For $10 for the entire year I have 5 websites hosted with the following....
1039 GB per month of transfer. (it started at 1,000 and increases by 8GB per week)
21140 megabytes of storage
I'm guessing from the activity zcar.com has, it uses maybe 5-10 gigs of data per month. Wouldnt even beging to put a dent into my host.
The fact is, the moderators just dont want that kind of stuff here. They want it to be a ZCAR forum, and that is what it will stay as.
And no that is not a typo, $10 for the entire year is what I pay.
Post Edited (Jan 17, 5:14am)
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tony, i've had my own forums before. i'm not sure what your point is. i never said i wanted to make a forum where anything goes. i said no matter what we talk about here it's not going to change the type of people that come to this site.
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by the way.. i've been to got-z.com before. not sure why you wanted me to go there so bad. i've been to quite a few z forums. i like watching the videos and looking at the pictures of everyone's cars, something this site doesn't really offer.
what i like about this site is the wealth of technical knowledge, something a lot of other forums don't offer. but with all that technical knowledge comes know-it-alls, like yourself. something we peons just have to deal with i guess.
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Must be server maintenance that HZ is hosted on then---I think they have their own servers. Not sure about here.
But yes, I justin would GO TO THE SITE I think he would SEE what I was saying about "directed content" but I see he's posted below twice again, lay money he's sidestepped that little test again and is blathering on endlessly about how we really need to have that forum here, not knowing what the hell he's asking.
Being one who BOUGHT THE FORUM when it was discontinued here, and kept it open for others for years on another site using the same name I would think you are qualified to comment directly to the "Keep the Content Directed"
But Justin, no, he doesn't want to hear of that!
No, and he doesn't want to make his own site, either.
So why doesn't he just STFU, because THOSE ARE THE TWO VIABLE ALTERNATIVES.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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wow all i wanted to do was make sure i wasnt the cause of some one elses thread being deleted because of my post, now i have a great deal more knowledge about this site. i think i will stick around. it sounds like this is a pretty good site. what do you think- tony?
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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hey tony that was your 24024 post you must be able to keyboard alot better than my one finger hit the backspace ket alot attempts- haha!
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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And along with the viedos you like so much, WHAT ELSE comes?
And why does the forum need to host the videos, you can still link them here?
"On content" that is the message. You are missing it. With the videos comes a LOT more that you are glossing over, or simply refuse to see.
And what, praytel is your handle at Got-Z? I'd like to see what your "contributions" are there thusfar.
You have made my point in your last statement, you just don't know it!
People come here for something, and what YOU want to include with this off-topic forum IS NOT IT!
There is a reason the site forum SETTLED DOWN after B&C was moved.
You just either don't want to admit it, or are simply unable to see it. People complain about it here now...there IS a reason it was culled and changed.
Wether you want to acknowledge that fact or not, that is your problem. It's better here without it that with it. If people want that kind of interaction, they can GO THERE.
When was the last time you had to put a WORK WARNING in the title post of the subject line here?
When was the last time you had to wonder what would pop up when you clicked on a link here, or any thread.
You underestimate the power of having a site that is ADULT enough to NOT be mired in filth, and the lowest-common-denominator humor that will inevitabaly follow off-topic discussion forums.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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i understand this forum is a large part of your life, so it's not surprising how defensive and irate you've become (adult?).
not sure what you think i do or don't want from this site, or want to change about it (a member's car section would be pretty cool)? i simply think the moderators needlessly delete some things that are harmless chatter, but of course they have every right to do that. they should know though, that the people that post those deleted threads get upset to see threads deleted for no apparent reason.
never said the site should host files, but some sites have categories setup that make it easier for users to post their own links.
i haven't bothered registering on got-z. sorry to disapoint.
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"that the people that post those deleted threads get upset to see threads deleted for no apparent reason. "
I think if you will review the posting guidelines, you will find the original post did not comply with the parameters (no question about those being deleted, much as they will whine about it), or MORE LIKELY, some moron has come into the thread, posted innapropriate material, and POOF the thread is gone.
Only recently have I seen individual threads deleted and the original post still remain. Perhaps some software was updated or new code written, but before ONE post would get the WHOLE thread removed.
If the poster isn't watching, to them it seems "my post was pulled, what was wrong with it"---and in cases where it wasn't reason #1 above, it's reason #2.
You can't expect to be notified about your threads when they are pulled, but if people get REALLY curious, they can always SUBSCRIBE to have all replys to their posts E-Mailed to them, so they can TRACK who responds, and THEN they will know why.
But that would take personal responsibility on their part, and vigilance. Gawd forbid we do that! Noooooo! We will simply get P.O. and whine out thread was pulled for "no reason"...
Hey, I have threads pulled all the time---DO YOU SEE ME COMPLAINING!?!?!?!?!
Hell no, if the mods decide to remove my posts from THEIR forum---such is their perogative. I don't have any problem with that whatsoever.
Due to my post volume over more than 10 years now, I figure eventually just on percentages SOMETHING I say or post will be pulled.
For instance, Ilya recently posted some sort of Gay Club Photo. As I was replying to it, it was pulled. I then posted a subject line of "Eyagiagieagieagyagie" (The noise Sylvester the Cat makes when he's been konked on the head and is shaking it off) and the Body of the post was "Are posts Disappearing? It was there, now it's not?"
Neither was Car Related in the least bit and my post was gone as fast as Ilya's, so my question was answered "Big Brother Was Watching" at that moment.
So what? Don't post crap that is not related, and you won't get it pulled. If it gets pulled, LET IT GO FOR GAWD'S SAKE, GET OVER YOURSELF!
NOTHING someone posts here is so profound that is DESERVES to be here.
I mean, for people to think that it is is just crazy.
For people who say I got a big ego, there are people who bellyache over stuff that is clearly against the rules...like they have a RIGHT to do it.
They don't. At least I don't try to impose my whims on others. If it goes away, so what. No skin off my back.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"