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What would your opinion be on installing an electric driven water pump?
3 Zs, 1 "Rusty", 4 more to go
Post Edited (Jan 3, 1:00am)
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Some OEM's are now using them for their product, makes for convienient packaging.
Make sure you have a good charging system, I'd probably up the amperage capacity on the alternator to help with such a high-draw item.
Wow, how did that happen, my "deleted percentage" is now back down to the 3's......
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Post Edited (Jan 3, 12:47am)
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I've heard only good things about electric water pumps. I would heed Tony D's advice though and make sure you get a higher output alternator to handle the extra load.
Not to thread jack, but how do you compute how many threads of yours have been deleted Tony D?
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1985 300ZX n/a
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I've never installed one, but before doing anything with the cooling system make sure its working properly. If you cooling system doesn't work stock, changing to an electric fan and water pump won't solve the problem.
Plain and simple make sure the cooling system runs good stock, then decide one the electric water pump.
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In mi book only if i live in a small town n never planing to go past the city limits or a show car, depending on an alternator for traveling/commuting look kind of scary ( a fresh battery on daylight will take you for hours without alt out put...)
Have you shared the left lane today?
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Search all forums by author for your user name. You will see "Search Results: 1-50 of 1753". Then look at your profile. You will see "Posts: 1784 "
Apparently you haven't commented much in the outrageous threads. You're only at 1.73% deleted.
I've jumped into too many silly Car Talk threads. I'm at 4.92%, and here I thought I was behaving myself.
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i would not do it on an old car with limited amperage. like it was said before, loosing an alternator suddenly becomes critical.
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I can't think of a compelling reason to do this. Spend money/efforts elsewhere.
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Wow...I am at 5.6%....I guess it's a guilty by association thing, because I always try to be polite.
As far as the electric driven water pump...I really have no idea. Wish I could offer some guidance, but alas I cannot.
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Holy CRAP, have 70% of my posts actually been deleted?!
Searched my user name for posts, 342.
My profile sez: 1140.
WHOA!
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Oh, I didn't search all forums. 1090/1140, only 4.4%. So now I'm not allowed to feel paranoid?
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We aren't all out to get you, yet, Dan. You can be paranoid later.
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An electric waterpump is a good idea for saving a few horsepower, and maybe gain a mile per gallon from not having the parasitic drag of running the belt driven pump.
I'm at 4.5% deleted posts BTW.
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(saving a few horsepower)
if thats the case I'm in! ..just wonder of the trade of HP due to a high out put Alt. that will be need it ..
Have you shared the left lane today?
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I agree with t5turbo, just make sure you get a high output alt.
and for reference 7.2580645% of mine have been removed.
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Dan, you seething troublemaker!
Oh, I see below you are only at 4.4 now, hell, then you are "Le Petit Rogue"
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Post Edited (Jan 3, 8:02pm)
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TimZ and RickB both had bad results with the electric water pump. Overheating so they both went back to the stocker!
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Tony,
I guess I just ain't tryin hard enough:(
But I was mighty proud of meself for a second there:)
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The time money and effort spent on an electric water pump would yield bigger hp gains applied elsewhere, IMO.
If yer already makin' 325+ NA, or 650+ turbo, then it might be time to pursue the electric water pump for that last 3hp.
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Damn I've been a bad boy, course I usually say what's on my mind but I'm at 7.5%
Oh, I have a question that actually pertains to the cooling ?.
If you were running a electric water pump could you not set it up for reverse flow, cool the head first then the block?
Matt
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You would need to change quite a bit to reverse-flow the L-Engine.
A remote mounted electric pump would facilitate that process, though.
There is a lot more to the process of reverse flowing the L-Engine than simply running it in through the thermostat housing. Matter of fact, that is probably NOT the way you want to do it! Making a manifold that went into the head from a common manifold to tapped AN fittings along the intake side of the head, and then flowing out the water pump hole in the timing cover would be the preferred way of distributing it, sue to the flow dynamics within the head.
I put a lot of work in that design, it's only money away from being completed for a project I have in mind. I have reverse flowed Pontiacs before, which is what got me thinking about the "aluminum head warpage issue" on the L-Engine, and the advantages of reverse-flowing it.
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I figured it couldn't be that simple to do it right. I see what your saying about the distribution. I'd like to see what your designing, I'm fine with my N/A motors but I am now in the process of putting together a healthy turbo motor were the reverse flow would be great. Also the impeller would have to be made with the fins reversed, which is no big deal but just something else to deal with.
Matt