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Barret Jackson TV makes me sick :(
Thought I saw Nero in the background playing on fiddle.
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i saw that 69ss vert camaro sell for 57K yesterday. wasnt even 100% original either...
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Different folks, I guess. I have been watching the reruns this weekend and am really looking forward to the new one in a couple of weeks.
I don't pay any attention to the $$$$dollars$$$$, the bids are off the chart and out of reach for most car enthusiast.
But hey, where else can you look at top quality cars from the last half century and from all over the globe. I treat is as an auto history lesson and the eye candy is great, if your into muscle cars, street rods, modifieds, antiques, etc...
It is a piece of TV that my son and I can watch together and really get into. The wife has even watched a little with us and shared in on the discussions. She did get her cup full this morning though, I turned on the Speed Channel after breakfast and she gave me that LOOK! I had to haul of the garbage and get a load of hay for horses put up to earn some more recliner time. lol
But hey, I am tuning back in now till she gets dinner finished anyway......
Good to hear from ya Blue, you presence has been sparse the last few weeks. Happy New Year!!!
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Happy NY :)
I'll be in Boston area next week so I hope to hook up with the cool ZCCNE gang if time permits.
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One of one.Concept car.Nothing else like.
And i heard there will be two Pontiac concept cars up this year.
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Do any of you old timers remember the famous "Harrah's Automobile Collection"? Not the current museum but the original collection that Bill Harrah started in the 1940's? Well, Bill Harrah had by far the largest and most complete car collection in the world with several thousand cars stored bumper to bumper in a huge old ice house.. Three auctions were held to reduce the collection and recouperate some money when Holiday Inn Hotels bought the collection in 1979 about a year after the casino king passed in 1978.. Those three auctions back then, made Barrett Jackson's auctions of today look like a mouse hole.. The grandest car in the collection, the Bugatti Royale, one of 7 built, sold in 1986 for 6.5 million dollars and was resold in 1987 for 8.1 million dollars! Now that was an auction to see.. If one of the Royales came on the market today, it would sell for between 15 to 20 million dollars.. The first Rolls Royce silver Ghost of 1907 is insured for 50 million dollars today.
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I love that plymouth hemi cuda that was on there...*drools*
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Actually, the best car collection in the world was in Mulhouse, FR. Owned by the Schlumpf (sp.?) bros. who made their money in the textile biz. When I was getting a tour of the MB museum in Stutgart MMA, the curator, who was escorting me around, tried to get me to take a side trip and offered to call and make arrangements for us but my time was limited and I could not go. Big mistake. The FR gov't seized the entire collection when the bros. went into financial ruin:(Google is your friend)
http://europeancarweb.com/museums/0205ec_schlumpf/
http://www.ot.ville-mulhouse.fr/dec/detaillieu_en.php?id=3
BTW, the MB museum is great, too. From the 1st car up thru their history (MM, F1, etc.)
Rusty but running.
Polish cell phone and two tubes of Aluma-seal.
And, now we are historic.
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Cars were built to be driven. They were not built to be sold and resold to the highest bidder.
'60 Chevrolet Apache 10 235cid Stovebolt 6
'79 N/A MT (My Dad's but I drive it)
'81 Turbo (Mine)
FSM: $60
Shop Manual: $20
Reading the manual: Priceless
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year were purchased for that exact reason, to be driven. One bidder bought 5 exotic race cars and was leaving the auction to race one of them the following weekend. They did a little interview with him last year on one of the follow up segments. He had plans to race all of the cars but one and it was going to be used in some sort of traveling car show event.
Then there was the Mopar guy that bought one of the Hemi cars for like 2 million and drove the crap out of it. One of the car magazines did a layout on him last summer.
I am sure most of the cars get driven but with obvious reservations.
Jeez, we put up our Z's for the winter to "preserve" them and our cars rank at the bottom of the collector car food chain. Some preservation practices are just good common sense and everbody's value barometer is different. What we see on Barret-Jackson is the same theme as our Z Car community, it is preservation and continuation of the car. Just on a very high $$$$$ scale. I am sure to some of those bidders, buying and driving a 100K muscle car is as fitting to their budget as you and I buying a $2,500 Z and enjoying it as a daily driver.
I just disagree with your "cars are meant to be driven" overall theme. I mean does that include every collector hobby????? Stamps are made to be mailed, coins are made to be spent, knives are for whittling, etc....
I have a great admiration for all old cars of every make and model. I love to see them preserved, restored, being driven, raced, displayed and auctioned to the highest bidder! I plan to place my back side in as many as I can afford to enjoy before I keel over. It is a total package and if you are a true car enthusiast, shows like Barrett-Jackson should get your blood pumping from the visual display of automotive art.
78 280Z Daily Driver
All original, Stock engine, Auto Trans w/factory A/C, 205,000 miles, new suspension and bushing kit, under primer and saving for a paint job.......
83 ZX w/T Tops, purchased 4-20-06, 122K miles, Son's restoration project
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Good call 78 2plus2.... However, while the Schlumph brothers collection was quite large, ( they had the largest Bugatti collection in the world ) the Harrah collection was much larger.. Fritz and Hans bought over 30 Bugattis from John Shakespere in 1964 for $80,000 and they thought they paid too much.. As far as I know, Harrah's automobile collection was the largest in the world with several thousand cars, next is Harold LeMay with over 1500 cars, Jerry Moore has about 650 cars and the Nethercutt collection is very classy with several hundred cars.. There are grand collections all over the world, however, nobody has even come close to William Fisk Harrah.