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they say the new 06 350z has a different front end, can some one post two pics of a 05, and a 06 front end, i would like to see the difference....thanks
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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Sure thing
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84 N/A auto w/K&N , 2.5 inch Straight pipe into magnaflow 40 series muffler, no CAT.
LaterZ
Post Edited (Dec 7, 7:08pm)
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dats it!!?? thanks Red Beauty84zx!!!! : )
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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I think the 350Z is fugly, both years... Certainly wont be considered a classic Z like back in the day.
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OMG! It got even fuglier.
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I saw one in the show room, the interior and dash is just amazing... Sitting in the car and driving it around I bet would feel so awesome, too bad it looks like a half eaten tin of dog food.
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even though the looks aint top-notch, i think it still will get classic status, but not legendary 240z status : ), for the record the 350z is a very nice looking car for today, 2nd to mustang gt
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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I will second Datto:
The 350Z is not what I was expecting when it came out, but overall its not too bad. Its a sweet driving machine, and if you've ever been behind the wheel of one, it definitely makes up for the looks. While I still prefer my slower and older z31, I can say that the 350Z is an amazing machine when you take it to its full potential...
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1985 300ZX n/a
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I say put the 350Z interior and dash and motor in the Z31... perfect car :)
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
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Everybody wonders what happened to Nissan when they introduced the 350Z. Like, very checkered reviews of the appearance, mainly.
I think what happened is they had a Really Tough Act to follow - the 300ZX. How would you like to be on that design team? Very tough. Your orders: Make a new Z, faster than 300zx, as good or better looking, and make it MUCH cheaper. Some sleepless nights occurred Im sure.
Well, on balance, I think they did they very best they possibly could. The car is reasonably priced, so they got that right. The power, handling, and drivability are there, so that is good. For the looks.....well, all you can say is the 350Z is no 300ZX beater, and it beats few earlier Zs either. I'll give them this though: It looks like nothing else on the road - from any angle.
That is a Number One concern for a lasting sports car design, that it looks like nothing else. Good, brutal, it is different. No in betweens on the 350Z.
It's Crackers to slip a Rozzer the Dropsy In Snide - MAD magazine, 1956
90 Nissan 300ZX NA, Pearl Gold
89 Saab 900 Turbo SPG, Black
57 Chevrolet Bel Air hdtp, Onyx Black
Dave of Everett, Washington, USA
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Good words there EverettDave.
I must say that the convertable 350Z is just stunning, but it's a sh!t load more expensive. I uploaded a pic I found ages ago, look at this beast.
Too bad it didn't come like this stock, and one other version with t-tops and another hardtop.
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I might be blind but i don't see much of a difference than the grill or the lights. you know now looking at both the 300zx (that i own) and the 350z they both have a type of surprised look.
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How is this ugly?!? ...
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'might as well' do a turbo swap at the same time,
'might as well' make it a hybrid turbo,
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Post Edited (Dec 8, 8:52am)
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jeezus you non Z33 guys are stubborn as hell...please i would love to know what car out right now is better looking than the 350Z. you're comparing apples to oranges by saying a 30+ year old car is better looking than a new car. you have to compare it to its contemporaries , thats what will make a car classic. I personally like the old 68-72 corvette stingray body as opposed to the C5 but chevy couldnt possibly put that car on the market today
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I can't believe I'm about to say this, but the new Mustand looks better than a Z33, the new vette looks better than the Z, last gen eclipse, RX8,..... Other than the headlights and taillights, it looks a lot like every other ricer out there.
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3 years into production and the "should have looked like" crows are still cawing.
driven, I also couldn't agree more on the 68-72 Corvette comment. I'm lucky enough to have one and it knocks me out every time I look into the garage. Aerodynamics require less character in body designs today, but GM came close to old school styling pizzazz with the Saturn Sky.
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ehh this argument is useless i guess...last gen eclipse? you gotta be kidding me.
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03 CS Touring
VIN #189
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Im not much of a corvette person but i do agree with you i do like that stingray.
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Comparing the 350Z to previous generation Z's as far as looks isnt fair.....
First lets look at the 350Z itself:
The 350Z has a very european look to it, in paticuarly it has cues of that much like a modern Porsche. All in all I do like the styling of the 350Z.
Next we can look at the Z32:
The Z32 also has a very european look to it, but it takes more cues from the Italians with its wide and low profile. The Z32 has more of an aggressive stance to it.
And Finally we will look at an S30:
We all know where the original S30 got its styleing cues, from the europeans, but in paticuarly the Jaguar E Type with some minor cues from Porsche. This design was an instant classic and still looks gorgeous today.
Comparing these three Z's is hard because they all come from differenet era's and have so different styling from one another. Everyone has their own tastes and I think we can leave it at that.
84 N/A auto w/K&N , 2.5 inch Straight pipe into magnaflow 40 series muffler, no CAT.
LaterZ
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You missed the Z31! Why? its clearly the best of the group:
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1985 300ZX n/a
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Z31 is the best looking Z!
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Sure the 350Z looks "ok" once it has a zillion dollar bodykit on it and some uber bright paint job... But it should look hot from the factory in my opinion.
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86' 300ZX Turbo
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Z31:
LOL...yeah the Z31 looks the 'best' if all you can afford is a ~$5K (or much less) car. So I guess if you are meaning it's the best under $5k Z, then I *might* agree.
Z32:
Let's see considering that the previous Z32 had a stand alone platform, and the stock car cost almost $15K more than the stock base Z33, then uh, yeah it SHOULD be a better and faster car right out of the box. Now everyone knows the potential HP gains on almost any turbo engine are better than a NA engine, so that comparison is out the window as it's an apples to oranges comparison again.
Z33:
For all of those hating on the Z33, I'm sure you'd all have loved the original concept more...right!
For those that have so quickly forgotten what Nissan's concept looked like. I was to be a retro design so those that swear up and down that the original is a classic and no way will this Z33 be, let me remind you all what you guys were wishing almost came true in the original Z concept. And to think that some have called the Z33 bloated, I guess you wish this 'sleek' machine would have been brought to us.
Wow, they were gonna make this bad boy a 200HP 4 cylinder, and I'm sure it would have been SO MUCH better than the actual Z33 made!
-2003 350Z Enthusiast Stage 0
-1971 Datsun 521 Inline 4
-1970 Datsun 510 w/KA24DE
-1991 Honda CRX HF
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hahaa, nice post mag...yea that original concept sucked. also 85zx that Z33 posted doesnt have a super uber paint job or whatever thats a stock paint job, the kit isnt that expensive either just a front lip and sides no rear kit. and the wing was pulled off a G35. the brembos are stock and the wheels well yea theyre nice but the black Z32 doesnt have stock wheels either. I think youd agree that the black 300zx posted above looks a bit better in its current form then when it rolled off the lot. heres a stock Z33 for your viewing pleasure or displeasure
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Post Edited (Dec 8, 5:50pm)
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I can't beleive anyone thinks the new stang looks better than the 350z i have driven my friends 350 and i LOVE it car is so smooth and sweet looking i just don't understand how anyone could hate it's looks. I love all cars but i think the new stang is very ugly like they couldnt make their mind up old/ new and one big ol arse on that stang. i still like the way my z looks compared to a 350 but it's my second choice in z by far.
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I guess it's just such a drastic design change compared to earlier Z's it's hard for some of us to adjust :P
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I will agree that the 350Z is different than the previous Z's in which they had the previous Z to evolve from, but since they took away the Z from us here in the US and basically had no sports car in thier line up, a lot of people wanted Nissan to step back up to the plate and have a sports car.
Now if we all understood that Nissan is a BUSINESS only interested in turning around thier fortunes (as they were in the red for years) so they wanted to create a car that would inorder of importance:
(1) sell very well (aka PROFITABLE)
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(2) Appeal to the majority of the public (see 1 again)
I'm sure very low on thier list was to satisfy the 'hard core' sport enthusiasts. So yes they had to have comprimise to make it profitable, hence the shared platform to make as many cars with as little engineering investment. While this may not have produced the sleek styling we all were wishing, it did come with the benefit that a new Z could be had for around $26K, and again I point to the fact that the previous Z32 sold for about $15K more (Turbo form of course since I've never heard anyone really have a strong arguement for a NA or a 2+2 Z32).
I for one am very pleased at the car I got for so little money compared to what I would have gotten for my money *IF* I was lucky enought to have been able to afford a new TTZ32 at the time, but then again I was only in 8th grade when they were out and were so hot.
Yes I know my 350Z isn't the fastest car out there, but I knew buying it that it wasn't, nor was that my only consideration in getting it. If speed was I would have bought a POS (insert Honda/Toyota/GM/Ford/Etc) and spend a few grand in swapping a hot engine and I could have a beast but unlike so many I wanted a NEW car that had the creature comforts that older cars don't have...little things like a working heater, air conditioning, power windows/door locks, oh and latest in safety such as the 6 airbags in my car.
This will always be an apples to oranges comparison and there's lots of us that like our 350Z's and others like the other series Z's...there's no right or wrong here, just a variation in tastes which are very much affected by where we all are in our life's stages.
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nicely put MAG, like what you said the platform needed to be able to support a range of different vehicles
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Hey Driven, I was about to say "who put up my car" but mine looks just like yours (well maybe with a little less shine and a few more scratches :(
Mine's a 03 CS Enthusiast (but with Touring wheels) and VIN 391...so mine wasn't too far down the production line from yours!
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It may only cost $5,000 (if you got ripped off) but with much less effort it looks better than any other Z.
And with a turbo engine and some mods, it can easily make as much power as the z32 TT.
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1985 300ZX n/a
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Don't worry, The 350 will only cost $5k in 20 years.
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I'm doing an auto to manual swap...
'might as well' do a turbo swap at the same time,
'might as well' make it a hybrid turbo,
'might as well' install MegaSquirt, FMIC, 555cc Injectors, ARC BOV...
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Ugly?
I see a 350Z every 5mins around here in West London.
Don't get me wrong, I like them... I like all Zs.
... but I have NEVER passed a Z31 in mine!
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I'm doing an auto to manual swap...
'might as well' do a turbo swap at the same time,
'might as well' make it a hybrid turbo,
'might as well' install MegaSquirt, FMIC, 555cc Injectors, ARC BOV...
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Matt:
It seems like you are a hardcore enthusiast of your Z31, cool...but you always put the same pictures of that black Z (if it's yours cool too) but you always put that same angled pic. I believe I remember seeing your posts before, and if memory serves me correct it's a 2+2 right? Which explains why you only post angled pictures, since that is the ONLY way a 2+2 looks even partly decent (IMHO).
Don't get your panties in a bunch, I simply think Z31's are old school and most owners what dump (I say that because why on earth would someone spend a lot of money on a 80's car, for example some of the wheels on those examples of Z31's cost more than half the car itself I'm sure) money on it when they could be driving a nicer new(er) car...probably because that's what's in your budget and you're piecing it together as you get more funds...not that there is anything wrong with that.
I for one do not like the look of them, they're too straight lined (like a kid with a ruler could draw one) and to me they look way WAY too 80's. You may be right about my 350Z's value in 20 years at least I have that much time before that happens :)
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Just because the car is cheap doesn't make it a car nobody wants anymore! Where do you come up with an idea like that? Personally I'm glad that I picked up my Z31 for $2900 and I think it looks better than a $27,000 350Z. It has the shape of the original Z's with a more modernized approach.
And in 20 years, the 350Z will be as cheap as any other old Z out there. The Z32 cost much more when it was new, and its not even 20 years old yet but they can still be had for $5000 if you do some proper shopping.
...Oh, and Matt's 2+2 is just sick! I don't know how anybody can find anything bad to say about it.
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1985 300ZX n/a
Post Edited (Dec 9, 11:27am)
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PhxZ31:
"Just because the car is cheap doesn't make it a car nobody wants anymore!"...well my friend the law of supply and demand does say this is true...not me.
Case in point, if Z31's were so highly prized (high demand = a lot of people wanted one = opposite of "nobody wants anymore") since they're not as many of them around (low supply) as there used to be (or any 20 year old car really) then the price of these would be through the roof...but alas there is hardly any demand for them and hence the price reflects this fact. That's is why they're so inexpensive :(
Your comment about "the Z32 being much more expensive when it was new, and it's not even 20 years old but they can still be had for $5000" is a bit confusing...but I assume you're trying to say that even thougth the Z32 is not 20 years old you can find some that are selling for more than the original new price...yeah of course you can but those are HIGHLY moddified Z32's...so you're really not paying that price for the car itself, but the after market (or NISMO in some cases) components and its associated labor costs now are you?
I mean you even said it yourself, you can buy a $5K Z32 and then spend big bucks on it on things such as a new Turbo engine, new bigger turbos, huge intercooler, ECU upgrade, larger injectors, huge deep dish wheels, paint jobs, etc etc to make that car a beast and guess what, you'll end up spending a fortune and of course you'll try to sell it for as much as you can which in some cases will be more than the original cost of a then new Z32.
Not a very strong argument when you all are talking about modded out older Z's. I'm basically sticking to stock to stock comparisons here guys. Those pictures posted of 'sick' Z31's have big bucks invested into them with the aftermarket deep dish wheels, body kits, and not to mention paint jobs. I'm sure most 20 year old factory paint jobs never looked that good even when new.
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no MAG, you totally misunderstood my post.
when i said "the Z32 being much more expensive when it was new, and it's not even 20 years old but they can still be had for $5000" I thought that was pretty straight forward, but apparently not. I didn't say anything about selling it for more than sticker price anywhere, I don't know where you got that. Let me re-word that:
When the Z32 originally came out, it cost more than the 350Z does today. But today, only 10 to 16 years later, you can find them as cheap as $5000 if you look hard enough. My point was that the z32, which was produced in fewer numbers and was originally priced higher than the 350Z, is now relatively cheap. Give the 350Z the same amount of time and it will be just as cheap also.
If you can justify putting the rims on your car now because its worth $20,000 right now, then fine. But in 15-20 years it will be just as cheap as mine and so by your logic it would then be "unworthy" of upgrades? Thats kinda dumb.
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1985 300ZX n/a
Post Edited (Dec 9, 12:22pm)
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I never said my nor any other 350Z would be worth over $5K in 20 years...why, because I don't know what the car will be worth that far off into the future so I don't make silly comments.
Obviously you can find Z32's for under $5K but they're mostly NA or worse yet, 2+2's...but you still find the TT's if in decent shape going for ~$9K. If a TT Z32 is $5K or under then you KNOW it has to be a beater.
I never said anything about justifying any rims...aftermarket anything is always a losing scenario...no one ever really makes that money back, so I prefer to leave my Z as is...stock. If you read my posts above you would have realized just that. But yeah putting big bucks into a 80's car is dumb, it's not even a classic!
Well at least you didn't argue about that the Z31's demand is low...so at least I made that part clear to you. Enjoy your Z31 bro
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I will enjoy my z31.
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1985 300ZX n/a
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Can't we all just get along?!?
Yes, mine is a 2+2, reason being that only 2+2s were released in the UK.
I could have brought a Skyline instead of my Z but I wanted something different, hence the Z31.
It is not my only car, I could have brought a Z33 if I wanted but I would not have had such a unique car.
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I'm doing an auto to manual swap...
'might as well' do a turbo swap at the same time,
'might as well' make it a hybrid turbo,
'might as well' install MegaSquirt, FMIC, 555cc Injectors, ARC BOV...
Post Edited (Dec 9, 4:51pm)
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Matt: Yeah I just realized you were in the UK so obviously you couldn't buy a 2 seater Z from your dealers...so obviously some of my post's reactions have no real bearing on you since you HAD NO choice. I dig all Z's but it's just that the Z31 is my least favorite. Doesn't mean I hate it or something...after all it's a Z! Don't sweat my posts brother, hell like you said we all own Z's so we should get along. :)
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MAG wrote:
> Matt: Yeah I just realized you were in the UK so obviously you
> couldn't buy a 2 seater Z from your dealers...so obviously some
> of my post's reactions have no real bearing on you since you
> HAD NO choice. I dig all Z's but it's just that the Z31 is my
> least favorite. Doesn't mean I hate it or something...after
> all it's a Z! Don't sweat my posts brother, hell like you said
> we all own Z's so we should get along. :)
I agree, we should all get along.
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1985 300ZX n/a
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can anyone tell me where to get the body kit/hood for the Z31 in the last pic that MattDaKav posted... im going to get a turbo Z31 just for that look cuz to me it looks sweet..
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Sorry mate,
I don't know that kit.
Some others here:
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I'm doing an auto to manual swap...
'might as well' do a turbo swap at the same time,
'might as well' make it a hybrid turbo,
'might as well' install MegaSquirt, FMIC, 555cc Injectors, ARC BOV...
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"can anyone tell me where to get the body kit/hood for the Z31 in the last pic that MattDaKav posted... im going to get a turbo Z31 just for that look cuz to me it looks sweet.."
The hood is the stock hood from a 200ZR (or any 87-89 z31 with a 200ZR scoop installed)
The body work looks like the standard 87-89 body with some custom stuff thrown over it. Those two holes in the front bumper would have to be custom... it would require cutting or removing the actual metal bumper reinforcment under the fascia.
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1985 300ZX n/a
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phxZ31
which picture is your car? i'm a big Z31 fan...in fact,my next project is on a Z31.we have an 86 NA and an 87T that has been rolled.
people that diss Z31s have never driven one.theyre fantastic cars.
If all were equal, none would be strong.
Ballistic,Ruler of Interstates
Stage XX+ 1993 Z32 NA
"SoulTaker"
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My car isn't pictured here because at the moment its in the process of being repaired after my idiot brother backed his jeep into it while I was parked behind him in the driveway. The car was in mint condition (stock) but now it has a new hood and front bumper that I got from a junkyard.
I am in the process of building an engine for it (turbocharged vg33e) and so the paint will come in a year or so after my wallet recovers from the engine build.
I'm going to start a webpage with pictures of the car as I fix it up and build the engine, I'll let you know when i have it online.
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1985 300ZX n/a
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The vents on the bumper look like 'N1 Ducts' from a Skyline.
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I'm doing an auto to manual swap...
'might as well' do a turbo swap at the same time,
'might as well' make it a hybrid turbo,
'might as well' install MegaSquirt, FMIC, 555cc Injectors, ARC BOV...