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so...
I been driving my Turbo around now for three weeks trying to get someone to go a couple lights, no takers. That is until the other night. I was headed back home, going down our town's main drag when I spot what looked to be about a 74 or 75 small block vette with sidepipes. I whirl around and catch up to him, and pull up by him and gun it a couple times to try to get him to go. Finally after about a mile or so of this, I guess he had enough, so when we leave the light, he punches it, and I punch it, and I IMMEDIATELY jumped him by like 5 cars, I banged second and jumped out on him by another 4 or 5. By the time we got to the next light, I had him bad. We come to the second light which is red, and he rolls the window down and asks me if my Z is "bottle fed", "nah" I say, just a little old 6 cylinder turbo. "Yeah Right" he says, and does a u turn back towards town. Needless to say I had perma-grin all the way home. These cars do run good don't they?
Eric
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easy there kiddo. If it'd been a newer vette (c5/C6) you'd have some room to gloat. But the mid-late 70's through the late 80's were bad times for the vette and most other pony cars. Side pipes don't necessarily necessitate a big block, secondly, even the big blocks of that time period were only making upper 200's, low-300hp numbers.
Congrats on the win anyhow.
EDIT: also if it was a 75 or after, there was no 454 option, the 350 was al that was available really.
My guardian angel has twin turbos. . .
1995 Cobalt Green NA
1988 Maroon 300ZX NA (sold)
Post Edited (Sep 18, 9:59am)
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Yeah...
I know they were probably some of the weakest years. Smogged out, all that restrictive crap, but still. I thought I should take him, but I had no idea that it would be such a margin. My car is only stage III, which should be what? 300 RWHP?
Speaking of Z06, the vette show was in town, and there were some absolutely SICK vettes in town. There was a lingenfelter TT Vette, he said it was putting about 950 to the back wheels. DAMN! Can you imagine going to pass at 75 MPH and lighting up the tires? there were several supercharged z06's, one absolutely gorgeous red 2006 Zo6 that was also supercharged. A blown big block 1967 that was tubbed out and caged. They estimate that this show (effingham Illinois) draws about 5000 vettes between thursday and Sunday, and there were plenty around. The new ones are by far the best looking vette ever produced.
Eric
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If you were looking to race you should have gone to a track. Street racing is just a bad idea period. I can never understand why someone goes out of the way to turn around ("I whirl around and catch up to him, and pull up by him and gun it a couple times to try to get him to go") and provoke someone into doing something they probably would not have wanted to do in the first place.
'91 Pearl White NA 2+2
JWT POP Charger & Hardpipes
Post Edited (Sep 18, 10:14am)
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Yeah...
perhaps, but it was fun. The first light we went through was a frontage road to a kind of industrial park which is deserted at night, and the second light is about 3/4 of a mile with no entries or exits. I wouldn't be doing that through residential areas.
Eric
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Fun or not it is a bad idea. Where I live, if you get caught racing, you lose your ride and your license. What fun would that be?
'91 Pearl White NA 2+2
JWT POP Charger & Hardpipes
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I am with dharel on this..
Think about it MaxxAction, you say that the streets were deserted, etc. but at the same time how many people that get caught thought the same thing before hand? I would bet pretty much all of them. The point is, a lot of people got up today like any other day, got in their car and died in a car accident. Do you think any of them planned on that happening? If you are going to do something unsafe, i.e. racing, then do it at a race track.
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I have a 76 vette....and a 90 na......
Both are different cars in every aspect
76 vette is rated 180 bhp....75 is lower than that, 74 is a little higher.
My vette is modified, but the gearing the 300zx' give them an edge. Remember your comparing cars that are 20 years apart technology wise.
My NA will jump out in front of my vette, but as soon as i hit 3rd in the vette, the NA is in the rear view.....Im running all stock enternals on my vette, but i have bigger intake/carb/air filter/cooling system....I dynoed at a little over 300...But i assume it was a tuned up dyno...
And all sidepipes mean on those years is that someone had an extra 3k to spend on exhaust....And now they have to watch their calves when they get out of the car....
Freedom is the Devil's handshake...
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GEEZ!
So, you guys NEVER do, or NEVER have done anything dangerous? You don't break the speed limit by more than 5mph? You have NEVER raced anyone down the interstate or away from a stop light? I need a little adrenaline once in awhile to feel alive. No, I am not thinking I am Vin Diesel in a new Fast and Furious movie, but if I cannot let the horses run once in awhile, whats the use of having it?
Eric
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I think the big thing, is you made an extra effort to initate it.
I hardly every initiate a race, and it takes someone special for me to act on it.
Freedom is the Devil's handshake...
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That is not the point. Yes, I'm sure plenty of us have done "something dangerous." However, you specifically said that you were out looking t o race and "whirled around" when you saw the Vette. What would you have done if the driver of the Vette you were racing hit something or someone or just plain lost control? You would be up the creek without a paddle since you provoked the race. If you want to run, do it safely at the track.
'91 Pearl White NA 2+2
JWT POP Charger & Hardpipes
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Let this be a lesson Maxx: Don't post street racing stories unless they're extremely badass. You always get more grandfatherly talks than compliments.
Nice kill.
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WORD!
I appreciate the concern guys.
Eric
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I keep seeing the phrase "what If" pop up, the Fact is he is now carrying on with his day not racing anyone and did not hit anyone. True indeed he put himself and others in danger, But bashing this guy because he made a post about his victory Is not neccesary. I dont condone Street racing but why is there so many people that spend $$$ on mods and upgrades then drive like bats out of Hell on dangerous roads, i thought we were supposed to care about everyone not just street racers. I think all of us should be safe whenever we enter a car period wheather it be a z meet cruise in the mountains or midnight street racing.................
"If, If was a fifth we'd all be drunk" Fred. G Sanford
Only "If" i hit the lottery. Gimme a break
"Jesus is my pilot"
" After sitting here and thinking. I really enjoy owning a Three Hunnerd ZX"
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I posted this several years ago and thought it would be good to repost:
Author: gbelnap
Date: Jan 10, 2005 9:03pm
I do not normally respond to these types of posts, however. . .
I have been known to do stupid things in my Z cars, lord knows I have had my 78 since I was 18 (I am now 35). I have a stack of pink slips that would get each of us a beating from our (insert appropriate person - wife, mother, father). So I normally do not throw rocks, but I will relate what happened to me about 5 years ago. . .
I was down in Flordia traveling to Cocoa beach, it was late and I was invited to join a race with a Camaro and a Mustang. We were on a 5 lane road 2 lanes in each direction with a turn in the center. Stores, dealerships, and side streets on both sides. I declined to participate (wife was in the car), however the two others took off. I watched the tail lights (yes I was moving above the posted speed limit, but not attempting to stay with the racers). All the sudden the Mustang (on the outside) slammed on his brakes and spun and hit a car entering from a side street. He survived, the girl he hit did not. She was just some kid who was on her way home from a friend's house and probably did not realize how fast the other cars were moving. I was at 80 and they were well ahead of me, so they were probably around 110-115.
Since that time, I still get on the throttle from time to time, but my recommendation is to keep the racing to the track, because it is usually the innocent who get hurt.
Sorry if this sounds like preaching, not my intention.
Regards,
Glen
78 280Z
94 300ZX 2+2
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I just checked out a 68 vette with a 427 with a buddy, those aren't slow I hope
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lol, anything before 71 should fine, vette-wise
My guardian angel has twin turbos. . .
1995 Cobalt Green NA
1988 Maroon 300ZX NA (sold)
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I keep seeing the phrase "what If" pop up, the Fact is he is now carrying on with his day not racing anyone and did not hit anyone. True indeed he put himself and others in danger, But bashing this guy because he made a post about his victory Is not neccesary. I dont condone Street racing but why is there so many people that spend $$$ on mods and upgrades then drive like bats out of Hell on dangerous roads, i thought we were supposed to care about everyone not just street racers. I think all of us should be safe whenever we enter a car period wheather it be a z meet cruise in the mountains or midnight street racing.................
"If, If was a fifth we'd all be drunk" Fred. G Sanford
Only "If" i hit the lottery. Gimme a break
I guess the thing that some people find disturbing is this:
I been driving my Turbo around now for three weeks trying to get someone to go a couple lights, no takers.
he has been roaming the streets pestering people for a streetrace
That is until the other night. I was headed back home, going down our town's main drag when I spot what looked to be about a 74 or 75 small block vette with sidepipes. I whirl around and catch up to him, and pull up by him and gun it a couple times to try to get him to go.
he's making illegal moves on the main drag to get another car to run on the main drag (you know, the most crowded, most heavily patrolled street in every town/city/neighborhood
Finally after about a mile or so of this, I guess he had enough, so when we leave the light, he punches it, and I punch it, and I IMMEDIATELY jumped him by like 5 cars, I banged second and jumped out on him by another 4 or 5. By the time we got to the next light, I had him bad. We come to the second light which is red, and he rolls the window down and asks me if my Z is "bottle fed", "nah" I say, just a little old 6 cylinder turbo. "Yeah Right" he says, and does a u turn back towards town. Needless to say I had perma-grin all the way home. These cars do run good don't they?
he beat a Vette by 10 carlengths to 60. not much of a race. if the Vette was real clean with aftermarket wheels, it was modified. if it was modified, the Vette wasnt racing. if it was stock, and looked great, it was all original, and a Vette lover would never chance racing down the street an all original matching mumber Vette.
you mentioned the word "IF". in the case of someone roaming the main drag looking for streetraces, the word isnt "IF", its "WHEN". the more often you do it, the more the odds are that something bad will happen.
If all were equal, none would be strong.
Ballistic,Ruler of Interstates
Stage XX+ 1993 Z32 NA
"SoulTaker"
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Very well put Ballistic, Case closed :)
"Jesus is my pilot"
" After sitting here and thinking. I really enjoy owning a Three Hunnerd ZX"
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Come on y'all! 2Fast2Furious all the way!!! LOL
j/k
Yes street racing is not safe and should not be done I agree. ''ve gunned it a few times but never flat out race another car on a straight away. I guess take it to a track or deserted road outside of town atleast, not in populated places. Someone can get hurt as posted above...
1990 Nissan 300ZX TT, 5 spd, JWT POP, AshSpec ECU, Labree w/Testpipes, Chrome OEMs, MWS 12.1 fr rotors, HawkHPS, SS lines, Pearl Black
2006 Infinity G35MT, 6 spd, 19" wheels, Athens Blue, graphite leather.
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Hearty feeling. :)
I walked a Z06 over the weekend from about 30MPH to ~85MPH - had him by several car lengths. Classic guy+gal+corvette divided by a 550RWHP Z32 = I could swear I saw his girlfriend hitting him when he pulled off the road. AKA: Priceless.
note: this was on a divided highway, straight line, no sidestreets, no other cars in sight, 55mph limit
Pumpfuel & Street Tires, I didn't expect to lose. :) 11.951 @ 124MPH 18psi
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I would figure it to be very close against a Z06 rolling on from 30 but from a stand still you would be behind till past the quarter mile.
It is just so good at acceleration.
I don't understand why anyone would put a supercharger on a Z06. I thought that the main delay for the vette was that the lightened chassis was twisting under the 500 hp and they had to figure the best stengthening method without adding very much weight.
1993 300zx NA
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Ballistic...
I might agree with you. IF I didn't have an uncle who has an L82 that has some nice engine mods done to it and LOVEs to mess with kids in tuners. By the way, he's 56.
Some of you guys make it sound like I was running 155 through a residential neighborhood or something. I think going through first and second you get going what? Maybe, 80? I personally don't think that 80 MPH in an unpopulated area with a divided road is that dangerous. Hell it had been so long since I had a quick car I just wanted to know if it was as quick as I thought, or if it was my imagination.
Eric
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80mph is still enough to kill somebody. The point is to unleash the fury outside the city limits. that's all they're saying. Divided highways, back roads with unlimited front and side visibility, tracks, etc.
My guardian angel has twin turbos. . .
1995 Cobalt Green NA
1988 Maroon 300ZX NA (sold)
Post Edited (Sep 18, 7:03pm)
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dude, I wasnt bashing you. I was just explaining to the Buggy why there were so many people that were bashing you. I used to streetrace... but we would line up on the interstate to drag.
and something WILL happen.
I
-had a rod blow through the oilpan and the inside of the car filled with smoke
-had a ring gear break at speeds and rear wheels locked suddenly. the car stood on the front two wheels and slammed down. the driveshaft went spinning and beat the bottom of the car, ripping brake and fuel lines.
-was riding with a buddy when he lost control and went flying through a fence
-shredded a steering tire at 100+ mph
this was all on a controlled access freeway, 50 feet wide, no businesses, no driveways, sidestreets, traffic lights...etc. I'm not gonna tell you not to do what I myself did. I'm just telling you that
1. something WILL happen/go wrong
2. your uncle needs to sell his Vette if all he wants to do is fool with children in Hondas on the street.
If all were equal, none would be strong.
Ballistic,Ruler of Interstates
Stage XX+ 1993 Z32 NA
"SoulTaker"
Post Edited (Sep 18, 9:15pm)
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Exactly B. Ive had friends killed street racing in "controlled" enviroments. Five lane roads with no traffic other then an 18 wheeler once in a blue moon that will warn of his arrival. Yet somehow people still get hurt cars still wreck. Racing out there is dangerous as hell. But racing down a main road is just stupid. Oh and ya damn right I street race.
Currently parting out 1990 300zx TT.
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yes i agree with everybody here as well. when i got my Z just more than a year ago. i raced everything i saw. spun the tires everywhere i went etc etc. i always handled it well. majority of all my races have gone over 90+ on the interstate and regular roads.
but until this one day i hit 130 going around a slight turn on the intertstate and i felt the tires slipping out from under me. it was one of he most scariest and wake up calls in my life.
when racing its not "if" a cop comes, "if" a car pulls out in front of you, "if" i hit something in the road. its about when. because it will happen. if not sooner then later. and youll never see it comming till to late.
ill be the first to admitt i still race. but never to extreme amount of speed. and never never if i know there is a majority of a chance something bad will happen. (wet roads, my tire wear, cop area, curvy road, around corners, etc etc.
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1993 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 5-spd
211WHP & 190.79LBS Tq
If you see me comming......get out of my way.
Every road is the Autobahn.
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Ballistic...
My bad. I get it now that I went back and read it again, I first thought you were joining the chorus. Personally, I don't like real high speed for extended periods, too much bad can happen. I like the feeling of the first three gears more than anything.
Now, catch me 20 years ago, it didn't matter. I remember racing my friend at top end over a stretch of about ten miles, that is until I heard that horrible knocking from the bottom end of my SD 455. That was a fun car, 74 SD 455 Trans Am, dark blue with the black and Gold Firebird on the hood. Torque on that thing was sick, I think factory spec was like 510 Ftlbs or something stupid like that, and I had it cammed and aluminum intake, holley 780 vac secondary, headers, and gears. We used to cruise broadway and at J&T rental, all the hot rods would congregate. I would hold her in first and roll by there at about 30 MPH and punch it and smoke the tires for a block. I had to run 9 inch cheater slicks to make it move in first, ahh those were the days.
I guess getting older has slowed me down a lot, Most of my trips around in the TT I don't even get over the speed limit. Most of the guys around here have Mustangs with the cats hollowed out, and Camaros with headers and chips, a couple of new GTO's, they all mess with each other. But when they see that TT Badge on the back hatch, most of them look the other way. I may be old now, but I guess I still like to run with the young bucks sometimes! ;)
Eric
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Eric:
Small suggestion: remove the TwinTurbo badge. :)
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i'm pretty good, ive never really raced anybody. I've done a few high speed runs on an open stretch of highway, but getting caught doing that stuff is just too risky. Closest i've came to wreckin my car, was driftin a lil bit on a really wide road. But i let off the gas, tires gripped and it swung the opposite way. Pretty much spun out, but, that was my wakeup call not to be messin around. Nobody was around, nothing i could have hit, but it was the first time i really lost control of the car. Made me realize how dangerous driving really is.
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I don't own the Z, the Z owns me.
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Synopsis, it only takes a moment for something bad to happen. Case in point, while on a drive from Lubbock to Dallas to see my girlfriend (now my wife), all it took was the few moments my eyes were off the road while I was grabbing a cassette for me to loose concentration, overcorrect. Result was flipping 3 times and end-over-end twice. Luckily all I got was a 3 inch or so scratch on my left shoulder.
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maybe the vette let you win. HAHA!
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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maxx...i dont care about the street racing, but if somone doesnt want to race, youre just being an annoying a$$shole. you pull up to somebody at a light whatever, but going out of your way to get somebody to race is annoying. i hate people that do that.
"I whirl around and catch up to him, and pull up by him and gun it a couple times to try to get him to go. Finally after about a mile or so of this, I guess he had enough"
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03 CS Touring
VIN #189
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everyone street races at one time or another and if they say they dont they are full of it. i street race just about every damn day whether it be in my Z06, my SD-455 Pontiac, all my other cars or my sons 240z (ive run one of my 9 second cars on the street years ago also many times trailer it to street race areas). Ive been doing this every weekend and usually everyday im out in one of my cars for 32+ years and its a helluva lot safer than driving drunk which alot of people do and seem to think is perfectly fine, yet they criticize the street racers.
ive probably done thousands of street races in the last 32 years and ive never wrecked, caused an accident nor seen one in the groups ive raced with. i dont consider it dangerous at all unless the participants are stupid in where they choose to do it.
LET THE FLAMING BEGIN...LOL
Post Edited (Sep 20, 3:35am)
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5 cars before second gear? Sorry but in my modded turbo Z I have a hard time doing that to school busses who aren't racing me.
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Gotta agree with Tyson on the point above.
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maybe he means hotwheels. :o
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'05 350Z Chrome Silver Touring
'73 240Z
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Also searching for acceptance and/or affirmation?
You found enough of each here. I hope that serves you well.
Post Edited (Sep 19, 6:00pm)
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so you probably dont want to hear how I outran 2 cops last night........jk
1970 240zt 326whp 320ft/lbs @ 13 psi,
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Tyson...
if your car can't jump a school bus by fifty feet in first gear, you may need to get a tune up...
Eric
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Can someone explain what stage 3 means please?
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1982 280zx
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Well...
to most Z32 owners, it means, exhaust, intake, boost jets, ECU reprogramming.
Eric