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This ought to help them sell a few more cars!
Dale Jewett
DETROIT -- General Motors is increasing the powertrain warranty on all its 2007 model vehicles to 5 years or 100,000 miles, the automaker said today.
The powertrain warranty is transferable and has no deductible, GM said. Previously, GM's powertrain warranty typically was for three years or 36,000 miles.
The move is a bid by the automaker to counter successful marketing of long-term warranties by competitors such as Hyundai and Kia.
In July, rival Ford Motor Co. increased the powertrain warranty on Ford, Mercury and Lincoln vehicles for 2007 models. The warranty is five years or 60,000 miles for Ford and Mercury vehicles, and six years or 70,000 miles for Lincoln vehicles.
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12.804 @ 107.26 mph on crappy street tires with Dual SU Powered 2.9L Stroker!
ZCAR.COM member since Aug 1998
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Warranty Wars just like the old days!
A warranty is only as good as the car it is covering.
If you have to keep taking it back for replacements, no matter how long the warranty, your image of the car gets tarnished.
Build it right and the warranty coverage becomes unnecessary.
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I like to say that a warranty is only as good as the service center you're taking it to. Cars can be fixed, they're machines. But idiots are always going to be idiots.
1981 280ZX Turbo
60,000 original miles
Still OEM (except for tires, fluids, and filters or course)
Swartz Creek, Michigan
It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milk bone underpants.
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It's a customer confidence thing. They want to buyer to know that even though GM knows the transmission won't last 100k, they will stand behind it and replace it. It's cheaper for the company to have this warranty and sell cars than to let the Korean companies do the same thing. GM powertrains are pretty good and most last over 100k with no major issues IF SERVICED WHEN SPECIFIED. They will ask for proof of service if you bring in a car with a damaged trans under warranty. If there is no proof regular maint was done, I would bet it voids the warranty. So keep your oil change receipts and trans flush paperwork.
1972 240Z 4-speed, header, 3.54 R200, Crane XR-3000 Ignition, 280Z tach, Tokico Blue Struts, Suspension Tech Springs, Poly Bushings. Visit me at my website for your custom EFI & restored Datsun parts
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I remember back in 82 the dealer tried to sell me an extended warranty on a slightly used 1982 Toyota Supra that my wife and I were purchasing. I just laughed.
John
77280Z (Spooky), 83ZXT (Garage Queen), 86ZXT (Bulldog).
Proud owner of 10/03 Z car of the month.
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...probably good for the traveling businessman who might put 20K miles on it a year for 5-years...not quite the 10 year/100k miles that hyundai
offers, equating to 10K miles a year which is more like the "average" driver.
Might help fleet/co. sales,...maybe taxis, cops, courriers, etc.
So basically after 5-years, then what?....the mileage is a bogus marketing add-on which means nothing.....(sounds good anyway) Actually, I wouldn't mind the interior on the Sonata...not to say I would want one...(hope their crash ratings got better!)
'73 240z, sitting 16 years in garaged storage...Spring 2005 endeavor...
Twin Cities, Mn
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More marketing BS. If they had a better rep due to building a quality product in the 1st place, they wouldn't need this crap. The Big 3 have all tried this before and look where they are now...in the dumper.
Rusty but running.
Polish cell phone and two tubes of Aluma-seal.
And, now we are historic.
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GM and Ford doesn't build their vehicles like the Import Honda and Nissan brands. They have a reputation of going over 140K miles, talk about "Built Tough"
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Their "new" warranty comes right in line with the new governmental regulations regarding emissions reliability and longevity...
Marketing, marketing, marketing!
It's like Saab's announcement last year that they were going to more 'pedestrian friendly' exteriors in case of vehicular-pedestrian collisions...
They forget to mention that the EEC requirements for vehicle exteriors mandate such designs for the 2007 year models....
Ever wonder why the vehicle manufacturer's warrantys were 50K before?
Take a look at the EPA regs regarding emissions component reliability.
This isn't a PLUS, it's government mandated. They are just putting a spin on it to appeal to the slackjawed.
Too bad Hyundai beat em to it years ago.... We know who's thinking ahead, now, aren't we?
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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Hey Tony, GM and the rest have had 8 yr 80,000 miles on all emission equipment for years.
This actually covers internally lubricated parts that aren't affected by the EPA required warranties.
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12.804 @ 107.26 mph on crappy street tires with Dual SU Powered 2.9L Stroker!
ZCAR.COM member since Aug 1998
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HAH!
I put 20K on in THREE MONTHS working in the Midwest last summer.
Going between my house and the airport in my F250 nets me 20K annually.
A travelling businessman is more like 100K a year...
In my case, now being "local California Service" I will only put around 1000 miles a week on in a normal work week. Less than a salesman who hits 3-4 visits a day across a city. I go someplace, and am usually commuting 5 minutes daily from the hotel till time to drive back home.
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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Read the EPA requirements. It's a graduated scale. First it was 50K, then it was 60, then it was 80....
By 2007 it's up to 100K...
But now they call it a "Warranty"...
When in REALITY it's a GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT!
Read the warranty booklet sometime and realize in California some items are covered differently, where 49 state cars get "free replacements" at X service interval, California cars don't get those same items.
Why?
Because CA says they HAVE TO LAST LONGER than the 49 state requirements. Is it a different part? No.
But IF it fails, GM (or Ford, or any other manufacturer) saved the cost of that part if it happens to go the full distance and not fail, whereas the 49 state vehicle got it replaced free under an emissions warranty requirement.
It's all marketing bullsh*t in regards to giving the consumer "protection". If it were up to manufacturers, they would sell a 12/12 at MOST.
In other countries, once you buy it, YOU OWN IT! They are VERY happy with that arrangement. Really helps parts sales!
What was it Chris Farley's character said in the movie "Tommy Boy" in regards to Warranty on a Box?
it's pretty much hitting the nail on the head!
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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Post Edited (Sep 7, 3:07am)
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HAHHA Tommy Boy, that was a CLASSIC movie!!!
Irregardless they will sell more vehicles becuase it makes people FEEL good about their purchase. Remember that PERCEPTION really is REALITY to the majority of folks!!
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12.804 @ 107.26 mph on crappy street tires with Dual SU Powered 2.9L Stroker!
ZCAR.COM member since Aug 1998
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On the topic of warranties, how good are Hyundai and Kia?
1985 Nissan 300ZX Turbo "Rose": 85000 miles, 5 Speed, Red/white exterior, Burgundy Interior
Mods: 87 digital dash, 240SX front parking lights