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Why, why does it everytime i mention mustang on this forum or in real life people are like, "mustang sucks" *in a stupid sounding voice*. The Mustang does not suck at all. The only reason i think people dont like the mustang is that there are so many of them on the road, but most of the time, there the v6 models and most of the time people always mexi-fy there gt's. Another reason is that i think is that people FEAR them. I honestly cant see how someone can run their mouth about a stock clean looking GT be it a 65-69 or the late 80's 5.0 allthe way to the 07 GT's..HOW? did i mention the mustang cobra? 2nd only to S30's ;) Z's and mustangs and vettes are the only sports cars i'd consider buying, any mustang fans in here? and...
HEY ALL YOU MUSTANG HATERS SET THIS AS YOUR BACKGROUND AND FEAR!!!!
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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votekick
youth is wasted on the young
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voteban
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youth is wasted on the young
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guess it doesn't work here...
youth is wasted on the young
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another fool..give me reasons
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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Probably because it's true.
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Justin T
72 240Z L28, 5-speed
77 280Z 5-speed (t-boned 8-25-04)
80 280ZX automatic(retired)
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out of zoloff?
If all were equal, none would be strong.
Ballistic,Ruler of Interstates
Stage XX+ 1993 Z32 NA
"SoulTaker"
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iam waiting for reason for the jealousy and hate, zoloff?
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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not busting your balls and i know what you meant but a mustang is not a sports car.you know i think the deal is in some cases with a stang is that they have a rep for being junk.not to be offensive but i've ridden in some from all decades and they are a cool muscle car.but over all imo they're kind of a rattle machine.engines are great but over all build needs some improvement especialy the interior.it's kind of sad when a slightly hopped up meaning bolt on go fast stuff integra gsr can pull a gt.not to say you can't make a stang fast cheaper than an asian car.now the newer gt's thats a nice car and probably moves really well.i also think that honda and mustang are totaly taboo cars in this forum.i love cars in general i think it's pretty cool to have an american muscle car aswell as a nice s30 in your stable.buy the way that cobra emblem is sweeeeeeeet.
Z's are like woman maintenance,maintenance,maintenance!
1971 240Z gunmetal metalic 5sp 4:11 gears in the rear
illuminas and purchased from the original owner w/136k original miles
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I personally would love to own a 99+ Cobra, I think they haul some ass. But you have to keep in mind, this is a "Z" forum, they're gonna rag on those cars all day.
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Eric Laures
1992 N/A
Post Edited (Aug 30, 9:30pm)
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ok the mustang is not really a "sports car", i should of said "fast 2 door car"
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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The Ford GT motor is in the remodeled mustang is identical to the one from previous models...
It's a zcar forum, if you want to listen to people talk about how kool their wheels look, either go over to the 350z forum, or find a mustang forum!
youth is wasted on the young
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Son - you sound like a wiskey salesman at Baptist prayer meeting.
If you want the congregation to sing your praises - sing out of their hymnal.
This is a Z forum, but look at guys who love S30 and rag on S130 or Z31 vs Z32 - and almost universal contrariness for Z33 if they don't have one -yet. Or any combo who who likes what vs whatever someone else likes.
Again youngsters - everything has it's time and place.
Ed and Jeanne's
ZXelda 1981 280 ZXT: ZXena 1990 300 ZX
1941 Buick Special Sedanette (Betty)
1956 Dodge Royal (Dorothy)
1971 Buick Riviera (Rita)
1975 Ford F-150 Stepside (Fiona)
1992 Firebird (Frieda)
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thanks datto glad we cleared that up.i thought i was goint to have trouble sleeping tonight:)
Z's are like woman maintenance,maintenance,maintenance!
1971 240Z gunmetal metalic 5sp 4:11 gears in the rear
illuminas and purchased from the original owner w/136k original miles
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hey zelda,
how's your experience been with that riviera?? I was actually thinking about picking one up the other day.
youth is wasted on the young
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iam still waiting for reasons from these naysayers... i know what to expect on these forums, i just want to hear some reasons.... now reasons' mustang haters
p.s. that was funny erzelda
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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As far as american cars go, once a Corvette guy, always a Corvette guy. My girlfriend's mom owns a 2000 Mustang V6 (it's even red) and I just don't prefer it at all over C3 Corvette's and my Z. Mustangs are just too common-looking (with an exception of the earliest ones, plus ones throughout the seventies).
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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http://videos.streetfire.net/search/cobra/0/d9f42808-709d-47a8-bd26-cf91716fc281.htm
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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But what do I know?
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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It's all a matter of preference!
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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I like stangs. Grant it i would never take one over the Z, but i would love to have a 5.0 as a drag car. Personally i think with a proper exhaust they sound beautiful compared to MOST chevy 350s. Grant it a 350 will beat up on a 5.0, but the sound does not compare. And yes 5.0s are not the most pleasing things to the eye, but you cant argue with the plethora of cheap parts in the aftermarket. They are CHEAP to. Here in detroit you can find a 5.0 with an assortment of aftermarket parts for 4-5 grand. My friend has a 96 GT and it is always a pleasure to drive from time to time. Would i drive it every day, no. The 4.6s are fine but are kind of boring. Max HP at 215 @ 4500 RPM. But having 290 pounds of tourque @ 3250 RPM is nice for city driving. Past 4500 you feel like you are in neutral. Eh, they are still quicker then most Zs, but handle like ****.
-1981 280zx
-89 Jeep Cherokee
F-54 - N-47 - 9.8:1 comp - 6-3-1 header -Schneider (470 lift, 280 dur.) - full 2 1/4 exhaust- Pallnet fuel rail - 6 puck ceramic clutch
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and its a matter of not wanting to own a Ford too! *thank god!*
90 Diamond Metallic Black NA -- In repair mode
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Oh yea and as mentioned above, stang interiors SUCK. And i forgot to mention I got a chance to drive a 94 cobra and it was a treat. Those twin cam motors actually breath and have a great pull.
-1981 280zx
-89 Jeep Cherokee
F-54 - N-47 - 9.8:1 comp - 6-3-1 header -Schneider (470 lift, 280 dur.) - full 2 1/4 exhaust- Pallnet fuel rail - 6 puck ceramic clutch
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There's just no sense trying to respond to another cheap shot at 350Z owners.
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ford = poo poo! bigger than dodge.
76 280 all stock exept full bushings,qwuik knuckles,tokico struts&springs,3-2 header,k&n cai,msa sway bars,konig rewinds with toyo proxis ra1.
78 rust bucket. (4 sale!)
2000 v-dub mk4 jetta vr6
2005 titan 4x4 with nismo cai,banks exhus
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The #1 reason Mustangs suck is because their name promotes slavery of the talented for enjoyment. Besides that,... they are heavy, rattle can, sleds that sell an idea. That idea is going fast in a nostalgic car. And its just an idea, because you cant go fast in a V6 grocery getter. hahah' Though the 5.0 GT was a decent one. I dunno' about these new ones. But the 90's ones were like I said above.
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no one likes mustangs for the same reason no one likes hondas. their like tampons.. every bitch has one
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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1. Ugly
2. Live axle rear end, only good for straight ahead
3. Heavy
4. Poor build quality, especially interiors
5. They are EVERYWHERE
6. Underpowered except for '99+ Cobras and '05+ GTs
7. Clunky, terrible transmissions
8. FORD
-- Next Up: SCCA ITR 300ZX --
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"The only reason i think people dont like the mustang is that there are so many of them.."
Well, you need to expand your mind a little more.
I personally don't like that they are so poorly made. True, they are better than the original but by todays standards they are crap. The entire car is chocked full of cheap plastic, inside and outside. The whole car screams "cheap", just like all the toys in Wallmart.
It's not terrible, but it's defineately a low-class, high flash car.
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How about Ford Falcon? America gets all the crap... look at this monster that we get in Australia.
F6 Typhoon Turbo
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http://www.fpv.com.au
Ford make bulletproof cars on this side of the globe...
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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First of all Mustangs ARE NOT sport cars. The Corvette & the Z you mentioned are. Americans have a bizzare idea of what a sports car is. Mainly because they have so few to choose from the traditional American big 3. I do like the look of the new Mustang but the thing is a pig still. With the right factory package & lots of modding it can be quite a competive car.
This whole world smells bad, I'd buy another if I had
back what I paid for another mother@#$%@# in a motorcade
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I do not like dislike Mustangs. I agree there are too many on the road, most of them ragged, and poorly modified. But if they were as fast as they sounded, they would be FAST!! You have to consider....4.6-5.0 V8 "sports" car....only producing 215-230 hp? Pshhh, pitiful. They are slow, and poorly put together cars. You take a nonturbo Z32, and smoke one easily. Im just tired of everyone making a bunch of hype about them. Sure they can be fast, BUT, you have to make them. True sports cars are fast straight from the factory. NOW on the other hand, I would take a 03-04 Cobra, ANYDAY, I think Ford made a great car there!! But, until every Joe Blow on the street DOESNT have one, I wont own one :)
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I get compliments on my stangs interior, of course it is top level. I've actually had a new 350Z owner tell me he wished his interior was as nice and had less plastic. Almost all the interior in my stang is rubberized, carpeted or leather, very little just plastic.
It's a convertible and it doesn't have many rattles at all.
It's even funnier when people tought the newer stangs as being soo much better. Reality it has a marginal hp increase, no torque increase and it weighs 500lbs more than even the SN95's. The power is a wash, so far I have beat 3 new stang GT's in my 95 5.0.
Handling, bring them out to the autoX and see how they do against the Z's it will suprise you. Also look at SCCA results, often times the stangs are faster than any year model of the Z's... and they have far less mods.
People on here trash stangs because they are kind of like the bench mark, a lot of people have built their Z's to be faster but most haven't, many will say they beat stangs all the time....doubtful at least from what I've seen on the street and track.
People put a lot of money in there Z's to barely beat a stock stang.
Matt
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My nonturbo Z will easily run off from a "modded" mustang, I have beat everything from 90-95 5.0's, and 96-04 4.6's. Mustangs are pushovers unless they are HEAVILY modded. And I know that this was not a accident, because I have beat several, on several occasion, not just one time when a guy missed a gear, therefore, if a nonturbo Z32 can beat one, then a TT Z32 will massacre one. Dont get me wrong though, like I said, I like Mustangs, just a little over rated. Different strokes, for different folks. I like them, but I would much rather have a Z.
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I real HATE mustang BECAUSE of the hipocryte they poses. I mean the name Mustang were made famous by cars like Shelby GT500, Cobra, and the like.
Then later on, in order to have more sale, people started to cheap it out by making V-6 mustang, which has a millions reasons to hate and everyone who drive a v-6 keep thinking that they're on the Cobra level. So, they act like idiots with fast cars (which they don't have). The name Mustang was DEGRADED since then.
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Power with intelligence.
Speed with sensitivity.
It's the Z.
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Wrong,
The Mustang started out as a cheap 6 cylinder "secrataries" car.
It has always struggled to be something more.
Current Mustangs are still driven by lot's of girls.
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typical stang drivers. be sure to watch the last one lmao
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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Pro's
They're cool looking cars, except for the period between the late seventies and the early nineties. They have claims to fame, mostly on the drag strip. They are america's working class muscle car. They have a certain raw appeal to them. cheap power.
Con's
They lack refinment. They are built to be ultra mass produced. They have no real defining trait. They do some things well and most things mediocre. They haven't "evolved". They fell prey to the "retro" trend that I think is lame (OPINION, folks). They don't last long, from my experience. They are overrated.
Just quick thirty second thoughts.
Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
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lol, that last video is great.
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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>The Mustang does not suck at all
Live axle. No serious sports car has a live axle. Also, the Mustang, as many have pointed out, is not a sports car, it is a touring car.
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Mustangs:
- One of the best sounding small-block V8s
- Can be made to go very fast, very cheaply (I'm talking 10's or lower for less than $4k
- Interior starts falling apart after a few years (I work on them - I know)
- With a mix of hwy and WOT, I would get about 20mpg in an '03 GT
- Very easy to work on under the hood
- I've seen a stock bullit (new one) with intake, exhaust, and Drag Radials run mid 12's
- BTW, being a tall-ish guy, I HATED the interior of the '03 mustang, my left leg was always cramped between the door panel and multi-switch on the hwy.
- I like the power output of the '03+ Cobras and the new Shelby GT-500, but IMO, it's like cheating when the '03 Cobra has to use a supercharger to come close to the power output of the '03 Z06, and then it's pathetic when the Z06 still whoops the Cobra's ass naturally aspirated.
If a GT and an n/a Z32 race, and the GT loses, then the GT needs to learn how to drive. It would be a close race, but the GT should still win.
I don't know why you think the '03 Cobra is a "great car". They're in the shop all the damn time due to transmission problems, and all sorts of noises coming from the IRS. A few months ago one had to have the supercharger replaced after 12,000 miles - can't remember why, though.
LSx is where it's at
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'82 280zx -- 400+hp 355 sbc / T-56
'72 240zt - T3/T4 hybrid / TEC-II / not much stock
'82 280zxt - Stock...for now
'77 280z 2+2 -- Ongoing battle; currently in the process of "ricing
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The only thing I can see that holds up the car is that it is associated with Steve McQueen, the man who defined manliness.
Late '70s to early '90s is a pretty long slump if you ask me. The car has always been shooting for the fences and fallen short. It's a suburbian muscle car that is EVERYWHERE and not even a muscle car. A lot of the mustangs that are on the roads are destined to find their way into a trailer park with the engine in the tree, they simply don't hold their value. Heavy, underpowered, beatable, and not always pretty to look at. They had their glory days, they're over, it's time to accept that and move on.
1972 240z w/L28, tokico shocks and springs, and a 5 speed waiting. Also running high performance ultra mega blinker fluid, that's at least an extra 50hp to the wheels.
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo 5-speed. Belongs to me until my friend get's back from Iraq.
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Well...if the GT SHOULD win, then everyone that drives a Mustang GT needs to take driving lessons. The worst beating I ever gave was a 02 GT, 2 car lengths at a 40 mph....raced 3 times, everytime, same result. So no the GT shouldnt win.
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I was driving the '03 GT, raced a z32 from a stop, let off at around 70, because the point had already been made. Perhaps if you're racing all of them from a roll on the highway, then that's why they're losing. Most of the time, stangs will be geared lower than the z32.
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'82 280zx -- 400+hp 355 sbc / T-56
'72 240zt - T3/T4 hybrid / TEC-II / not much stock
'82 280zxt - Stock...for now
'77 280z 2+2 -- Ongoing battle; currently in the process of "ricing
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Not that I'm defending mustangs but lets be realistic. The 02 stang GT you say you beat is supposed to run mid to low 14's. I've even seen them dip into the high 13's with good drivers on a cool day at the track. The Z32 non turbo is supposed to run low 15's and I've heard of people hitting 14.9's with them stock on a coold day. Essentially the mustang is a full second faster than the Z32 so either you Z is special or these guys you are racing can't drive. Even from a roll you shouldn't really leave them in the dust. You are talking about 222hp vs their 260hp, not to mention they have much more torque. True they are heavy but it's not like the 300zx is a light car either. I mean even the Z31 is a bit on the porky side. It's like me saying I can beat SRT-4's in my 280z because I've ran a couple and beat them. Problem is that when I compare my timeslips vs what SRT-4's should be running at the track I see I come up short. Obviously the people I raced can't drive. It's one thing to beat someone because you are a better driver and it's another to beat someone because you have the faster car.
1977 280z: Intake, exhaust, high flow cat, header, euro damper, cam, MSD, adj. FPR, 3.7 lsd, F+R sway+strut bars, 2580lbs
1984 300zx: intake, exhuast, high flow cat, headers, JWT ECU, F+R sway bars, F strut bar
06 WRX TR
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I'll defend the mustangs, but only the older first gen ones.....64-1/2 to 66
In '67 the interior became much more trouble to keep up, particularly with
all the padded door rests and padded console, getting complicated over the basic things they did the first couple of years. Early doors had an inset vinyl panel only and the rest of the door was metal (something you didn't want to burn your forearm on in the summertime). I'm seeing fewer on the road now, so I can't say I see THEM ALL the time. And yes, unibody like the Z, I liked the ride and being close up against the door. I'd buy another if the price was right but now its harder to find earlier ones that have orig metal in the floorboards still. I also thought the "pony" interior with the embossed seats were unique...(they even did that kind of thing to the seats in the '55 Ranch Wagon) I had a 200-6 which was a pc of cake to work on and got 24.5mpg when top end was rebuilt...in one day..and back in! Fast..no..but like many z-drivers, it was the fun of driving it that made me keep it 7-years..plus being in school then($)...Body was tough and gage of steel would at least let me sit on it if I wanted to...Early coupes still likely easiest to restore and one day will be looked at like a Model-T (or Model-A) Still the early export T-5's are of interest to me and very rare.
Now , about '69 I remember alot of interiors and cosmetics going to crap!
and, would to this day, not touch one....From '69-'72 I vote GM ruled.
(and I guess the only thing I hated about Mopar were the starters...always
some god-awful whining noise they developed...at this point though, I think prices to refurb. even 69-72 GM or Mopar cars are getting out of this world!)
'73 240z, sitting 16 years in garaged storage...Spring 2005 endeavor...
Twin Cities, Mn
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I think people are talking about pre 98 GTs with 215 horses. An N/A Z32 can take those years
-1981 280zx
-89 Jeep Cherokee
F-54 - N-47 - 9.8:1 comp - 6-3-1 header -Schneider (470 lift, 280 dur.) - full 2 1/4 exhaust- Pallnet fuel rail - 6 puck ceramic clutch
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That was not a cheap shot telling datto that if he will find more posts about wheels in the 350z or some new mustang forum. It's a fact.
I said nothing bout the 350z, nore bout the owners.
Just that there's always wheel topics
youth is wasted on the young
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73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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I think you've found your reasons Datto.
1972 240z w/L28, tokico shocks and springs, and a 5 speed waiting. Also running high performance ultra mega blinker fluid, that's at least an extra 50hp to the wheels.
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo 5-speed. Belongs to me until my friend get's back from Iraq.
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I got nothing against them. I'd give almost anything to own a 68 fastback.
1991 300ZX N/A Slicktop
1970 240Z
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I love this guy.
http://videos.streetfire.net/mostdiscussed/0/43ebe08b-5f3b-4b02-84cb-6842dbec7b66.htm
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You participated in all of them. On the 70-83 Tech forum. Imagine that.
http://www.zcar.com/forums/read.php?f=1&i=666808&t=666808#reply_666808
I got tired of looking.
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I've also posted in the 350z forum about wheels, did you happen to catch that?
I was stating a fact that a majority of the posts in those car forums tend to be about wheels. What that says about the 350z forums, I leave to your imagination.
youth is wasted on the young
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50 topics over there right now. 1 mentions wheels exclusively. 1/50 - now there's a majority for you.
I got tired of looking.
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we can afford to buy wheels for our 350z because we don't have to spend all our money just to keep them running.
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'05 350Z Chrome Silver Touring
'73 240Z
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well it is a brand new car... rims yO!
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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I always liked the Dodge Charger chasing McQueen personally. I think in the movie Bullet. The Mustang is sort of like a bright pink shirt. Because only really manly men can wear pink. LOL'
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mustangs are good to swing donuts thats about it
3 of my buddies have early 90 fox 50s and ones really quick the rest are mainly stock and they will **** on all of my Zs - there cheap tourqy rear drive v8s and thats what they are good for
- i like to take a ride in them from time to time but not for too long as the interrior will kill you with its rattel power and super cheap plastic look and the fear its gonna understeer at any cornor or the rear ends just gonna kick out and leave you ina tree (which has happened to me befor)
and one thing i have always said is ya the cobras and what not are cool but give me a corvet and your supercharger just gets to be back there to make noise and think if my vett was supercharged
not that i own a vett
anyway i wonte lie im out to build my Z just to beat the mustangs and cameros just because they think they are hot **** because they have a v8 rear drive - to bad everyone and the moms grandmas dog owns one : \ and they have no style
would i own one if someone gave it to me - if it was 5spd and v8 theres no way i would turn it down
not a hater by any means but deff not on the cock of the stang either
and i only posted on the subjec because i was really bored
although cant beat the sticker price of 46,000 for a new gt500 with the GT motor in it 5.4 quad cam charged even though no dealership will sale it at that price
70 yay!
77 parts
81 compressed parts
86 compressed it handles
00 mercury cougar omg wtf : \ girl has to have something to drive
- owned
74.5 why did i sell you
81 1st car $425 found out s130s dont handle stock
82 good
84 BMW 325e omg never again
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Hopefully my first post here won't get me off on the wrong foot. I have been a mustang owner from day one when I started driving 27 years ago. I just sold my '03 Mach 1 and in looking for something inexpensive and cool to replace it with I cam across a '77 280Z so I googled to find a forum that I could research the cars on and cam upon this website. First, I would never post up anything about how great a mustang is on a forum for another car...I know exactly where that will go....like this discussion has. But since it's already posted I will put my 2 cents worth in. LOL
IMO there is a difference in "Sports Car" and "Muscle Car". I consider the Mustang a muscle car. Just brute horsepower with little refinement. For the most part you aren't going to a car that is great to drive around curves fast and that sort of thing. Just gobs of HP and torque....so much that the cars have a hard time even putting it to the road, and understeer so bad that you just can't whip it around through the twisties. To me a sports car is more like the cars here. Respectible performance but just an all around fun car to drive....to take out and cruise and just enjoy a curvy road. I like both types of cars. Nothing beats a rumbling V8 that's ready to respond to a push of the accelerator at any time when you are on a straightaway, but it's sure a lot of fun to just zip around the curves with a car that will hug the road and respond to every little twitch of the steering wheel. Each have their places...both are fun....both are different.
Now can someone help me find some informaton on the '77 280Z please???????
Post Edited (Sep 4, 12:29pm)
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i have a 1967 mustang. i got it before the 280zx. i have to totally agree with digdoug on everything he said. and for all those who say that all mustangs are slow in a straight line, try driving a 67 that has a 351c in it. thats what mine has. too bad it needs a new distributor. lol
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"Well...if the GT SHOULD win, then everyone that drives a Mustang GT needs to take driving lessons. The worst beating I ever gave was a 02 GT, 2 car lengths at a 40 mph....raced 3 times, everytime, same result. So no the GT shouldnt win."
Thats not a race! 40 mph your both barely even started. Plus if you could 60ft my stang in your 300 I'd give it away. 300's don't launch worth a crap. I have driven, raced, ridden with others racing 300 TT and N/A. The N/A are slow 220 crank hp in a car that weighs the same if not more than the stang, oh and your down on torque by close to 80 ft/lbs. All my friends with 300's traded up to the 300TT because they were tired of being so slow, getting beat by civics with b18 swaps. Now they have sold the TT's cause it is way easier and cheaper now to buy a faster better handling stock car. The TT's trap high 13's on a good day low 14's usually and their 60ft is normally 2.0+. The N/A are normally mid to high 15's cars. Stangs fall right between the two in stock trim.
I'm not partial to any particular car but the #'s back up what I've seen, at the track not some piddly 40 mph "race". I would have no concern running a N/A 300 of any year as long as you race long enough to get out of 2nd! With stock pipes & flowmasters, underdrives and a K&N my stang pulls 13.93's @ 102. I can tune the computer for more. What does your N/A 300 run?
Matt