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im tired of not having a garage to keep my shiro in so the only thing i can do to save it is sell it.
im just wondering what my asking price should be. it has 122,000 miles. brand new timing belt, waterpump, driveshaft, hks ssq bov, with a megan racing muffler. the rest of the car is completly original and is in tip top shape. and i recently got custom plates for it that read "SHIRO SS".it even still has the safety stickers on the t-tops.
so what do you guys think? how much would you pay for it?
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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im also selling a 60mm 240sx throttle body with cruise control for $20 plus shipping if anyone is interested. junkyards charge between 60-80 dollars for em so its a pretty good deal i think. just let me know
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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In good condition, I would ask $3000-3500+...
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ask whatever you want...drop that muffler off of it and youll get a bigger range of buyers
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yea i was thinkin about putting the stock muffler back on it. 3k-3.5k sounds pretty cheap.
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
Post Edited (Aug 22, 10:59pm)
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No way to use car covers and/or canopy?
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I'd go as high as saying 5k to the right buyer. I am very sure that if you talked to me enough, you could convince me that 5k is a reasonable price for that car.
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im glad you said that. thats what i was thinking my asking price was going to be. sounds reasonable enough.
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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Do you rent or own? If you rent go find a place with a garage and keep it.
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agreed^ put it away for a few and make some $
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I would pay $5000 for that car any day. I'd make the offer to you tomorrow but I don't have $5000 at the moment.
(I'll let you leave that muffler on it too)
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Post Edited (Aug 23, 1:11am)
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what is so special about a shiro? it basically has all the euro features + the heavy bumpers.. dont get me wrong of the z31 it is my favorite together with a white 86 inbetween model!! ( actually like that one best as it is THE 80's cokedealer pimpmobile YEAH BABY!!!)
But yours seems prestine 4 to 5 k would be reasonable
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nothing really frank, other than the low prod. #s and "shiro package". exclusivity is a big deal in this country...
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It also came with recaro seats and a viscous LSD from the factory...
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like i said the stadard euro equipment does it have a diff cooler and gearbox cooler ( that is the euro package)
I like the white rims on them aswel... however 300's in general are fairly complex compared to the s30's and s130's so i noticed working on one and taking one apart... however the 200zr that would be something .. the RB engine would open up some space under that hood.
Why arent there more z31 RB swaps ? as it is a perfect candidate for it.. it weighs the same as a r32..
hmmmm guys with z31's common !!! :)
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Because RB's are boring and the VG30 is bulletproof and can make some serious ponies! And not to mention the 200ZR is slower than the 300ZX stock for stock. On this side of the globe every second car has an RB, hell my Mums car has an RB30! lol But in the U.S the money spent on buying an RB and then getting everything together to make it work just isn't worth it when you could put that same money into a VG30 and be making lots more power at the end of the day. And over here it's just straight up boring, and you'd be nuts to do that to a Z31...
I guess in the states it would be something special though, but the only really awesome RB in my book is the RB26DETT...
As for complexity of the VG30, it's easy as pie! You just have to remove all the emissions bs and a few other useless things and it makes the engine bay far easier to work on and creates alot of room.
See there's plenty of space, what are you talking about? hehe
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Post Edited (Aug 23, 3:24am)
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is spiderman painted on that hood?
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Haha yeah, it's a pretty sad paint job but the engine bay is just insane...
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asdf
what the heck happened to that motor
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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I have a 78 5 speed tranny for sale. I'm tired of it being in the garage and need the space. Not sure about the input shaft but all else is OK.
How much would you pay for it?
Oh, and I have a 78 driveshaft in decent shape as well.
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LOL
Anyhow 300zxt you keep forgetting im NOT IN THE US naturally stock for stock the RB20 is slower than the VG but the RB engine is a FAR better engine than the VG desing .. and capable of MUCH more ponies with ALLOT better aftermarket support.
You would not be nuts to do it to a z31 because at the end of the day it is still a z31 nothing special!! like a s130 or a s30 is nothing special!!!
Unless you have a 280zapp in mint shape .. a zxr a 50ea.. anyhow you get the point! And clarifying this point the z31 is the cheapest of them all ... given it is at the age the prize is at its absolute low point..
I also wonder how a CA person would smog the car when he 'simply removes all the emmission crap'
The VG is not nissans finest by long shot, In fact the L engine and the RB are the better ones of the 6 bangers .. VG is much more prone to failure in my experiance and from what i heard of others ( ok opiniated maybe .. maybe due to the fact that a z31 in holland is a real poormans trailertrashwithsportscarambitioncar therfor not being maintianed like they should) ..
Me being an L man .. i hate the ******* belt drive..
The VG is not easy as pie compared to an L and doesnt outpeforme it either If i where to dump teh cost of an RB swap in my car i would have serious ponys aswel..
(given at the end of the day an engine is an engine)
Aftermarket support for the VG is very limited .. If i would own a z31 for driving and not just a part car I would dump a turbo rb25 or 26 in or a combo rb30 turbo....
Why is it that everytime something remotly points to doing anything to a z31 you feel attacted ( or come off as that So if you dont mean to think about your post!) what are you compensating ...YOU like your car .. that is OK you feel it is the best car of the z line? fine enjoy the z31!!.. I disagree i like the s130 cpe best... other people hate it and to speak in TonyD's favorite words .. A great driveline donor right!!
The s30 has 71 ... and thaa is much lighter then came the 260 and 280 with forklift bumpers outweighing early zx's .. it is all a matter of taste!!!
You dont have to defend the z31 everytime someone calls it JUNK WHO CARES.....
To each their opinion right so dont force a z31 down everyones throath....
Let people think it is JUNK you like it ? SO enjoy it
Its like a relegion keep it to yourself it gets boring
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Post Edited (Aug 23, 6:48am)
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You asked why people dont do the RB conversion very often and I told you, I'm not attacking anything lol
>ALLOT better aftermarket support
That doesn't matter to most of us, bolt on parts are too simple! It's much more of an achievement in my opinion to have all custom work. What's more special? Something that a monkey could modify? Or something that's less common and more difficult to modify? To some it's a curse to others it's a gift, I personally think it's good there is no off the shelf aftermarket parts for the Z31 because it makes a modified one all the better.
Here a modded VG IS something special, there is not many around at all. In my area alone there's about a dozen modded RB engines and I live in a small state.
This isn't an engine war post though, most people know how underrated the VG30ET engine is and how much potential power it can achieve and if they dont then they're missing out!
The VG engine is one of the best engines Nissan ever made, if you dont think so then read up! :)
http://www.redz31.com/vg30et/about.html :)
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Hybrid, is that tranny you have got ythe wide ear 2 bolt rear tranny mount? I forget what years had that one and then the other one which is a one hole mount.
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Put it in classifieds thats what u tell everybody else hybridz ------------------------------zing!!!!
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You better watch it Frank.....I don't appreciate having my z31 insulted...
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Most people are oblivious to the fact that the VG has so much potential power, it's one of the most powerful engines Nissan ever made even today. With the stock internals capable of 500HP and with some serious race modifications capable of making in excess of 1000HP there's just no logic behind saying that it's not a capable engine. To say an L series engine is more capable is just laughable to be honest, how many L series cars can run 7's? :)
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We get this question all the time, "oh man I want to spent a zillion dollars on X engine swap is it worth it?" and the answer is always NO unless you're specifically looking for something different because the VG30 is more capable than most ppl realize. As for being prone to failure, that's false too. It never ceases to amaze me how little some of you guys know about the VG yet seem to have very strong opinions about it! :)
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Post Edited (Aug 23, 5:52pm)
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L-series mang!!!!
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smoke lenses unopen box 40 bucks..hey shiro! email me pictures of your car
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73 240Z dash frame--$10 + shipping!
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You guys are too funny :)
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Post Edited (Aug 23, 8:57pm)
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300zxt no need for me to read up .. as for the statement..
it's one of the most powerful engines Nissan ever made even today. With the stock internals capable of 500HP and with some serious race modifications capable of making in excess of 1000HP there's just no logic behind saying that it's not a capable engine. To say an L series engine is more capable is just laughable to be honest, how many L series cars can run 7's? :)
Im just lauging .. the L series that suposivily ran 7s( portu rico orso ) had not much to do with a vg anymore .. with enough time and money every engine can do that .. so what is your point ... jeez you have long toes ...
I have nothing agianst z31's ...
and you are on very thin ice assuming people like me dont know anything about the engine ... VERY thin ice ....... dude you are so full of it
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if you are fully in control, you are not driving fast enough!
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Well you can't know too much about the engine if you think it's hard to work on and breaks down alot now can you? lol I'm only going by what you said, don't blame me as they were your own words.
An L series than runs 7s huh? Show me this car! Also how much lighter is the 240Z than the Z31? Drop that same VG above running 7's into a 240Z and it'd run quicker still, no? :)
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An L series than runs 7s huh? Show me this car! Also how much lighter is the 240Z than the Z31? Drop that same VG above running 7's into a 240Z and it'd run quicker still, no? :)
A z was never made for a straight line so who cares ..... On top of that lighter does not say better grip or traction now does it?
And no you show me not the car but a mod list to the engine .. for i fact i know that there are 800+ HP guys with LS in japan .. even back in the 80's that ran em all day long .. 800 hp is surely to get you in the 9's
But like i said enough cash and you can make any motor fast ...
I say it is a pain IN that engine bay ... i just like the L allot better .. any line engine for that matter .. and yes it has to do with accesabillity .. and if you deny the fact that line engines in general are easier to acces .. you are nuts
And well if you read carefully ... i see them break allot ( lifters that fail rings etc .. but then i said MOST people that drive z31's in holland dont maintian these cars to good ...... SO you have to learn how to read (give me a BMW l6 over the VG ANY day !!)
Anyway why dont you leave the keybord now and go play with your precious VG .. you are by far the most anal person on this forum that has been on here for a long time.. for an AUZZIE you are not that laid back ..CHILL OUT
BTW this is final for me .. no more posting on this subject .. as you dont seem to read .. but keep on raging as soon as someone even remotly states a z31 is not the god of cars
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Post Edited (Aug 24, 2:06am)
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Dont expect to take a dump on an engine that has huge power potential and saying false statements like "VG is much more prone to failure" without someone correcting you.
An L series than runs 7s huh? Show me this car!
A. Err, you cant? :)
>i just like the L allot better
Now if you had said that at the start I wouldn't of minded in the least. Ones personal opinion vs said fact are two completely different things and I respect ones opinion entirely but that's not how you initially addressed your post and you know it. I guess if you're used to earlier engines then it would seem somewhat complicated but it really isn't. You dont see me saying the L series is an old piece of crap do you? Why? Because I respect the engine for it's time, it was one kickass piece of machinery in the 70s and still holds its own even today.
A little respect to what we Z31 owners love wouldn't go astray, just as I do for ya'll. I have great appreciation for the earlier Z's, but alot of you are very bitter towards later generation Z's for no good reason. It's almost comparable to guys who hate computers because they grew up with typewriters lol Personal preferences aside there's no denying that the VG engine is one amazing peice of technology, it just came extremely detuned from the factory for the purpose of daily drivability and milage etc
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Well you are right the L is a oldtimer outdated piece of crap .. but hight tech compared to most V8's still in cars today LOL
and suffiecient for a track car ..
You can sleep in your car, but cant drive in your house
if you are fully in control, you are not driving fast enough!
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lol Well I wasn't calling it a piece of crap, purely out of respect for you guys because if it wasn't for the success of the earlier Z's then there would be no such thing as the Z31. Alot of blood, sweat and tears goes into working on an engine as I'm sure you very well know. Sorry if I get a bit upset when all that gets crapped on :) I'm proud of the long history of the VG, as I am with Z cars in general.
I guess an analogy of Z owners would be like the military how there's big rivalry amongst the ranks and different services but when we're at war we're all the same team, or at least we should be! :P
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we all need to get together and have a pick nick
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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bring the burgers and beer and im in ..
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Vrooom...
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another z car look like ( not that any of these cars have much to deo with areal car .. haha though the s30 loos fairly stock bodywhise .. no tube frame still has lights ...
You can sleep in your car, but cant drive in your house
if you are fully in control, you are not driving fast enough!
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id rather a inline 6 tt in the mid 1990s supra well i think its quicker then the z not nearly better looking though z is way better l;ooking
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yea v8's in z's are cool but id much rather have a z motor in my z
-1988 300zxt Shiro SS edition, 120,000 miles
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It definately doesn't count if you use a big block V8 in a Z, no matter what time you pull lol. You could put that same engine in just about anything and still run a decent time. Gotta be the factory block to count for the time in my book, except of course for funny cars and top fuel dragsters.
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Post Edited (Aug 24, 6:30pm)
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Just as an historical note, the VG engine almost predates the L-Engine.
The G-Engine was availabe in the old Box Skyline in the form of the G-20 Four Cylinder, this was a Prince Motors carryover.
The Prince Motor Company ran the Mercedes L-Series License and refined it, while the G-Motor was something they came up with on their own.
The Roots of the VG were in an inline engine, sold alongside the L-Engine for almost 20 years before it was incarnated as a "V" engine.
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