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Has anyone disconnected the seatbelt warning buzzer yet? I usually do this in all my cars because I always wear the belt but hate to listen to the buzzer while starting the car. The only reason I ask is because when I tried to disconnect the one in my Passat it triggered the Airbag warning light ($75 for the dealer to extinguish).
Is the light in the Elise tied into any part of the Airbag or is it a stand alone light switch?
Join me in the revolt against the horrible seatbelt warning buzzer and disconnect yours today!!!
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Is the light in the Elise tied into any part of the Airbag or is it a stand alone light switch?
Have you downloaded the Factory Service Manual (including the wiring diagrams) from LCU for $25? I'm sure the answer is in there...
Join me in the revolt against the horrible seatbelt warning buzzer and disconnect yours today!!!
What buzzer? Seriously, the buzzer never bothers me - after 30 years or so of them, I don't even notice them. The hassle of removing a buzzer is more of a bother than the buzzer. And I always start the car first, and then while the oil is flowing and it's running a bit, I buckle up.
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Tim,
I just download the manuals and I'm not the best with wiring diagrams. I truley haven't done much research yet and was hoping someone had an easy answer.
As far as 30 years getting used to a buzzer goes I feel sorry for you. I have always taken them out of the system, sometimes even before leaving the lot with a brand new car. Usually it's a simple quick disconnect under the seat and the noise and light are gone forever. It also allows for the fact that if something else is not right (door ajar etc) the same buzzer will be on and actually tell you something you need to know. I have a pattern of starting the car before I buckle up and I just don't like to listen to a buzzer telling me something that I already know I'm going to do. Plus makes it much more enjoyable to hear that first engine note, I just love the smell of premium octane burning in the morning!
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Personally, I think that the seatbelt "chime," as Lotus calls it, is obnoxiously loud. I disconnected the plug under the driver's seat & the light and buzzer disappeared, BUT . . . a day or so later the airbag light came on. I reconnected the plug & the airbag light went out. I could not find a buzzer under the dash, so my guess is that it is in the instrument pod.
Does anyone have a suggestion to eliminate or reduce the loudness of the buzzer without triggering the airbag light?
Thanks,
Don
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It's easy to disconnect. Slide the driver's seat forward...there is a wire connector at the right rear corner of the seat which pulls apart. Your move!
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Stan,
Have you disconnected yours and did your airbag light come on?
Has anyone tried to "jump" the wires to trick the car into thinking the belt is always connected?
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******Have you disconnected yours and did your airbag light come on? Has anyone tried to "jump" the wires to trick the car into thinking the belt is always connected?******
When disconnected the buzzer and belt light stay off. No air bag warning comes on, I presume that the bag is still active.
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Has anyone disconnected the seatbelt warning buzzer yet? I usually do this in all my cars because I always wear the belt but hate to listen to the buzzer while starting the car.
I'm confused. Instead of doing this extra work why don't you just buckle up before you turn on the ignition?? Then you don't get a warning buzzer at all. Takes about one second.
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Just the way I like to do things. I don't like putting on the seatbelt before I start the car and I just DO NOT LIKE warning buzzers telling me that I need to be safe. The Government does enough of that for everyone!
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Never noticed this buzzer
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Just the way I like to do things. I don't like putting on the seatbelt before I start the car and I just DO NOT LIKE warning buzzers telling me that I need to be safe. The Government does enough of that for everyone!
Yeh, OK.
Do you also like to put on your shoes before your pants?
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Just the way I like to do things. I don't like putting on the seatbelt before I start the car and I just DO NOT LIKE warning buzzers telling me that I need to be safe. The Government does enough of that for everyone!
Me too. I start the car and let it idle for a minute while I adjust the seat and get settled in. On most cars I usually disconnect the warning buzzer but I don't find the Elise's too intrusive.
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It's an easy dsconnect if you want to ditch the warning light and buzzer...literally a one hand job, just reach down there...did I say that?!
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I just download the manuals and I'm not the best with wiring diagrams. I truly haven't done much research yet and was hoping someone had an easy answer.
A "chunk" of the wiring diagram is shown below. I appears that the buzzer is located in the instrument stack, and that it is controlled by a switch. From what is shown on the diagram, and from what Stan has indicated, it's independent of anything else, so disconnecting the switch should take care of it.
Edit: After considering things further, the diagrams are sufficient and don't tell the whole story. I would leave the switch alone... See post #21 below.
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A "chunk" of the wiring diagram is shown below. I appears that the buzzer is located in the instrument stack, and that it is controlled by a switch. From what is shown on the diagram, and from what Stan has indicated, it's independent of anything else, so disconnecting the switch should take care of it.
Maybe. But there is also a seat belt pre-tensioner connected into the SRS unit and if this is wired into the same switch connector in the seat belt then it could cause a fault in the air bag system if there is logic built into the SRS system. I'd have to look at that connector to determine if it's completely independent or not. It might be independent because I imagine the pretensioner is in the inertia reel and the seat belt switch is in the seat belt latch.
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>>I think that may be more than a bit presumptive******br />
Only if Lotus has a very unusual air bag setup. There is no way, no way you'd want the air bag system status predicated by the status of the cheap wire splice in the subject wire. In any event, it defaults to the no buzzer / light option...as though the belt is always on. If that splice controls the air bag, there needs to be an immediate recall.
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I am presuming that if one were to have a good look at the wiring diagram they should be able to determine if the airbag will function with that wire disconnected.
Again Maybe. I think there's more to the system than is shown on those wiring schematics. For instance, there is no right or left belt shown on that schematic nor anything to show the determination of whether there's someone in the seat. That seat belt warning doesn't go off if there's no one in the passenger seat and the passenger belt is disconnected nor does the seat belt light and buzzer go off when the car is running and there is no one in the driver's seat. So that simple schematic really doesn't show what is really going on.
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******I am presuming that if one were to have a good look at the wiring diagram they should be able to determine if the airbag will function with that wire disconnected. I think that it is a bit dangerous to suggest to people that they can disconnect that wire without disabling the airbag when we do not know for 100% that it will not...******
I have looked at the wiring diagrams. I don't trust them 100%, neither should you. To be 100.000000000=>% sure, it would help to crash test several sample cars. And then satisfy yourself that yournsample matches the destroyed cars. You should never fiddle with a car if it does not seem right to you, and individual responsibility matters too. Keep it bone stock is the best idea for most folks. Note that disconnecting the wire I mentioned is done when you remove a seat....and the service manual does not emphacize air bag factors at all. When you unplugm this wire...electrically it is the same as having it plugged in and a belt latched. Think about that. The car also uses pretensioners...this is separate from the air bags and involves a pyrotechnic device engaged to a rack and pinion device at the belt reel. This is triggered by the SRS brain along with the bags.