Holster mod (for the mean streets)

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Given the history of Lotus, shouldn't you switch to a PPK?
007 uses the walther p99 now. i have one and love it but it is bigger than the ppk.
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Interesting how the Elise makes even this small weapon look large in the pictures next to the seat and center tunnel.
Incidentally, while California may have legal provision for concealed carry, the liberal bent and general fear of guns here has all but snuffed any ability to get said permit.
Good ingenuity on the holster mount.
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Shotguns are handy but can you roast a marshmellow with one. I prefer a "Blaster."
It smells like ... Victory!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/232777.stm
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812...e.thrower.car/
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Originally Posted by mgdive
Some people are touchy about things like that so I removed it. I don't want to start a gun control debate.
Well, I guess they can get over it.
Colt Defender in .45? I've carried one for a few years now and love it. Mine carries comfortably even seated in the Elise. I was lucky to find a holster that works really well for me.
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You could remove the gear shift knob, and mill down the shifter stalk such that your .45 pistol will just slip over it. Now you've got a cool shifter. Sumo Ball??? Best you can do with that is throw it at the carjacker. NOW, you've got a dual purpose shifter! LOL! Maybe someone can photoshop this idea!
Mike
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What if your shifter broke off after performing this mod? *grin*
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Every time I've been stopped they've always asked me to step out of the vehicle and stand by the front while they retrieve the weapon. I can't imagine them asking you to hand it to them, but I've heard of crazier things.
The Alaska State Troopers tend to be less concerned. Telling the Trooper that I had my pistol in the center console was sufficient. Alaska doesn't have any gun registration laws so there wouldn't be much point in his checking the serial number.
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Colt Defender in .45? I've carried one for a few years now and love it. Mine carries comfortably even seated in the Elise. I was lucky to find a holster that works really well for me.
Kimber ultra carry in .45; same difference.
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The Alaska State Troopers tend to be less concerned. Telling the Trooper that I had my pistol in the center console was sufficient. Alaska doesn't have any gun registration laws so there wouldn't be much point in his checking the serial number.
Most places don't require registration of the firearm, rather they check the s/n against a known list of reported stolen.
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In Florida, there is no law that stipulates you must inform a police officer that you have a gun in the car that I'm aware of. In fact, doing so may create more problems than it solves. I have officers as patients who agree.
Mike
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Florida cops/troopers are a bit anxious & assertive... (I guess it comes w/ the territory) I'm just glad my cousin was a prominent Asst. D.A. in the state; made late-nite drives & minor traffic incidents a bit easier.
I tend to do alot of inter-state traveling around the US, I assume it's bests for me to look into various state laws regarding permits, concealed weapons, etc.
Great insights in this thread! Gratsis...
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Well, I guess they can get over it.
Nice pics. Does that count as "concealed"?
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In Florida, there is no law that stipulates you must inform a police officer that you have a gun in the car that I'm aware of. In fact, doing so may create more problems than it solves. I have officers as patients who agree.
Mike
Mike,
Sorry but I must disagree with the officers you have as patients. I think most officers would prefer to be informed of the presence of a weapon before they spot it or have to ask. Granted in a non-eventful traffic stop it may never be an issue but I can't imagine an officer who would rather not know ahead of time.
My advice, for those who carry, is to fess-up as soon as possible and let the officer deal with it from there.
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Mike,
Sorry but I must disagree with the officers you have as patients. I think most officers would prefer to be informed of the presence of a weapon before they spot it or have to ask. Granted in a non-eventful traffic stop it may never be an issue but I can't imagine an officer who would rather not know ahead of time.
My advice, for those who carry, is to fess-up as soon as possible and let the officer deal with it from there.
Under what circumstances would the officers "spot it?" (Assuming you don't have it sitting on the seat or in plain view like in the case of this particular holster "mod.") I have a CCW, and I would not be comfortable driving with it in plain view like that. I don't see any possible outcome other than to raise the officer's adrenaline level by telling him I have a gun.
Mike
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If you have CCW, the cop already knows you have a gun. He's going to ask you about it.
In Texas, if you have a permitted gun, you are required to notify the officer. If you don't, and he finds it later, then no more permit.
Now, Texas recently made a half-assed attempt to legalize all guns in cars. The Houston DA chooses to interpret the law more strictly. So, in most of the state, anyone can carry a gun in the car. In Houston, the cops can arrest you. The argument is over the definition of "traveling." It's legal to carry a gun while traveling. The State says that if you are in a car, you are presumed to be traveling. Houston DA says, "presumption is not proof."
So, if you have an unlicensed gun, I can see just leaving it out of sight, and playing it quiet. However, if you have a permit, he's going to ask you where your weapon is.
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It comes up when they run your plates in MI. Also, MI requires you to notify an officer if you're carrying. I've been pulled over a number of times since I got my permit. Sometimes I've had the gun, a couple I haven't.
When I've had it I've told them and that's the end of it. They're not interested in where it is. I just gotten an 'alright.'
When I haven't had it and I've been pulled over I've been asked about it once. That was when I got pulled over on MSU's campus. It took him a looong time to get to my car, and then he was really apprehensive. Halfway through the stop he asked me about it, and I told him I didn't have it because I was working there that day. Then he relaxed and let me go (I'd taken one of MSU's wonderful roundabouts waaaayyy too fast in my Miata, I'd just gotten my new suspension).
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If you have CCW, the cop already knows you have a gun. He's going to ask you about it.
However, if you have a permit, he's going to ask you where your weapon is.
Not the case here in Florida, apparently. I asked my officer-friend. And, incidentally, I was not asked when I was pulled over a couple of years ago.
Mike
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Under what circumstances would the officers "spot it?" (Assuming you don't have it sitting on the seat or in plain view like in the case of this particular holster "mod.") I have a CCW, and I would not be comfortable driving with it in plain view like that. I don't see any possible outcome other than to raise the officer's adrenaline level by telling him I have a gun.
Mike
Depending on the officer and the area, that IS one possible outcome. However, IMO, informing the officer of the weapon's presence (without reaching for it )is pretty straightforward. Law-abiding citizens with carry permits have nothing to hide, but criminals attempting to conceal weapons would not offer such info to police.
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[quote=mgdive]Originally Posted by mgdive
Some people are touchy about things like that so I removed it. I don't want to start a gun control debate. [\QUOTE]
Based on those pics I'd say that probably qualifies as open carry without a problem. NO WAY the officier is going to miss seeing it.
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Most places don't require registration of the firearm, rather they check the s/n against a known list of reported stolen.
I thought of that, and decided that someone who went through the hassle of getting a CCW permit probably isn't going to be carrying a stolen handgun.
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