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Hmm, I might have to whip up some drawings and see what they price out at to have http://www.emachineshop.com/ make them.
That's all fine and well but...
- You'll need to make patterns first, as the mounting location isn't flat.
- FEA proved out that some quick & dirty struts I drew up would withstand *much* higher loads than I assume the bulkhead would, especially through the engine cover attachments.
- The stock mounting location on the Exige places the moment aft of the lower strut mounts.
- emachineshop sucks.
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- emachineshop sucks.
Care to back this up? I've only used them once, but what they did was what I asked them to do, and I couldn't even find a local machine shop that was willing to a) touch anything that was going to be used in a car or b) quantity less than 100 or so.
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codymac, have you actually used eMachineShop?
How is it that Plans Motorsport is having success with the stock Exige mounting location?
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Admittedly, no. I realize I'm not their target market.
I find their software impossible to use and the fact that they won't accept any other form of CAD/CAM is laughable - part of the reason for my comment.
It's great that people can one-off parts. It's frightening that people can do it without any consideration for engineering.
How is it that Plans Motorsport is having success with the stock Exige mounting location?
This is a Mid-engined Sports Car Series car that was race-prepped by Plans. Rather than express my own assumptions, I'll ask a question: Would you feel comfortable placing significantly more force on struts mounted at the stock angle and location?
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Admittedly, no. I realize I'm not their target market.
I find their software impossible to use and the fact that they won't accept any other form of CAD/CAM is laughable - part of the reason for my comment.
It's pretty disingenuous to make a statement that they "suck" without any qualified experience to back it up other than you don't like their software.
It's great that people can one-off parts. It's frightening that people can do it without any consideration for engineering.
Maybe, but you are assuming people using their service have no consideration for engineering. Just who might you be?
This is a Mid-engined Sports Car Series car that was race-prepped by Plans.
No it isn't. It's a stock Lotus Exige that a guy mounted a wing to.
Rather than express my own assumptions, I'll ask a question: Would you feel comfortable placing significantly more force on struts mounted at the stock angle and location?
Maybe not at the stock angle, but in the stock location sure.
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It's pretty disingenuous to make a statement that they "suck" without any qualified experience to back it up other than you don't like their software.
Perhaps, but I stand by my opinion and you're not going to change it.
Maybe, but you are assuming people using their service have no consideration for engineering. Just who might you be?
I never made such an assumption - reread my post. Someone who carefully considers such things and doesn't feel the need to explain himself to you.
No it isn't. It's a stock Lotus Exige that a guy mounted a wing to.
You're just plain wrong here. Plans race-prepped the car.
Here's a photo of it in the workshop at Plans.
Maybe not at the stock angle, but in the stock location sure.
Hey, knock yourself out - it's your car.
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Perhaps, but I stand by my opinion and you're not going to change it.
Thats fine but you are doing people a disservice by stating they suck when you have no experience with their service. The quality of their output is pretty decent.
I never made such an assumption - reread my post. Someone who carefully considers such things and doesn't feel the need to explain himself to you.
Yes you did, you said:
It's great that people can one-off parts. It's frightening that people can do it without any consideration for engineering.
Thats pretty presumptuous of you to assume people have no consideration for engineering when utilizing the service.
You're just plain wrong here. Plans race-prepped the car.
Here's a photo of it in the workshop at Plans.
But there is nothing particularly different about the rear hatch. They had brackets fabricated and mount the wing in the stock Exige location. I haven't seen a picture of a cracked hatch or bulkhead yet.
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Thats pretty presumptuous of you to assume people have no consideration for engineering when utilizing the service.
Again, you're interpreting what I said. I never said people didn't take consideration of the engineering - I stated that they could disregard it and still have parts made.
By the same token, I find it presumptious of you to assume that people *will* consider it as it's not a requirement when utilizing the service.
I'd say people are doing themselves are larger disservice by listening to either of us. They should make decisions for themselves, not based on the incoherent ramblings of a couple of guys on a car forum.
But there is nothing particularly different about the rear hatch. They had brackets fabricated and mount the wing in the stock Exige location. I haven't seen a picture of a cracked hatch or bulkhead yet.
Perhaps, but I won't make assumptions about what Plans did or didn't do without speaking with them. I also won't assume that it won't fail simply because it hasn't failed.
I do know, however, that both the front and rear clam on this particular car were modified by Plans to be quick-release.