Interior Exterior
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Help me decide which rear wing to get: GUT Sport or PB Racing.
GUT Sport:
Pros: more subtle, less ricey
Cons: may not provide much downforce, mounting method looks tacked on
PB Racing:
Pros: probably provides more downforce, factory look (Exige)
Cons: blocks rear view more
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gut racing
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I'm debating the same thing! I like the carbon fiber look but I'm afraid that the mounting has a chance of damaging the rear lid. Plus, has anyone said what the total cost of the PB wing is including shipping? On a side note, if I were going to put on a front spoiler, does it make any difference which front spoiler I use with which rear wing?
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gut racing
How come?
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PB.
it's the same as the one on the Exige. And I like the proportion of the wing versus the back end of the car. It makes the rear look wider.
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We are going with the PB piece on ours, it's really close to the Exige wing so it gives it some feeling of Lotus factory stock to me, guess Im wierd that way , we like to personalise within the confines of OEM (or as close to factory mods) as possible. We are going with the GUT front splitter in carbon though.
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I'm installing Forcedfed's wing on my car:
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There was a long thread (that turned ugly toward the end) that concerned the structural mounting of the one that mounts to the boot lid. The Exige has actual reinforcements under the clam (and thicker fiberglass in the clam) to support the loads.
But...
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I'm installing Forcedfed's wing on my car:
Any tests on how much down force is on this one? Also, if anyone could provide pics of there different wings that would be great. Most of the web pics are too close up to get an overall feel for what it really looks like on the car. Thanks ahead of time
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I like the GUT wing. I'd paint it to match the car. I like the way it looks and I think the way it's mounted is more secure and probably transfers more downforce to the rear of the car, behind the engine rather than to the deck lid.
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Just my opinion, but I don't think the Sector111 image of the GUT wing does it justice since the contrast in black over orange (IMHO!) does not work as well. I saw this wing on Serobo's car painted to match and the base section actually looked a lot better than I would have thought, based on the above pic. I was also impressed by how it mounted and how it spread out the forces... and that you did not have to drill into the top of the clam.
Small detail for some... but a wing on the lid will make the lid heavier to open and prop.
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Just my opinion, but I don't think the Sector111 image of the GUT wing does it justice since the contrast in black over orange (IMHO!) does not work as well. I saw this wing on Serobo's car painted to match and the base section actually looked a lot better than I would have thought, based on the above pic. I was also impressed by how it mounted and how it spread out the forces... and that you did not have to drill into the top of the clam.
Small detail for some... but a wing on the lid will make the lid heavier to open and prop.
Stupid question but do you put something inbetween the GUT wing and the clam to keep it from rubbing? I would think that over time, with the vibrations and dirt, it could cause some damage. What do y'all think?
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Stupid question but do you put something inbetween the GUT wing and the clam to keep it from rubbing? I would think that over time, with the vibrations and dirt, it could cause some damage. What do y'all think?
There is. There is some double sided adhesive foam between the wing and the clam. The real attachment then happens inside the lip of the boot around the opening. Pretty clever.
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Ok, help me to understand this better...
The Exige generates 90lbs of downforce at 100mph compared to the 12lbs. of the Elise. This comes from four sources: longer reshaped nose, splitter, wing, and fastback/roof.
Ok, so now we add the splitter and wing to an Elise, what happens? I would expect the splitter's contribution to be the same, and the wing's contribution to be less. Correct?
Which creates an unbalanced situation. In a car that's vulnerable to lift throttle oversteer. That you want to drive faster in the twisties. Everyone ok with this?
I'm not anti-splitter/wing. I think they look awesome and if they help I'll be in line to buy them sometime. But I don't want to upset the balance of the car at speed. How do we know that these aero aids work the way we need them to, and with each other? Does anyone have access to a turbine engine and a four post car scale?
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Like Randy says, the attachment method of the GUT wing is the best I've seen by far, especially in the area of spreading downforce. Think about it; if any of these other wings really do generate downforce, then where does it go? The "two stalk method" feeds the force into two very small areas of surface on what we all know is a delicate clam. No way I was going to do that. I imagine over time there's a chance we'll see cracking and spider-veining start to develop.
Shinoo posted the pics of the wing in Black just to differentiate the GUT pieces from the rest of the car. In my setup, the bits look near OEM, IMO.
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You raise good questions, JnC, but the only evidence we have so far is anecdotal. People who have these aero aids who've tracked the cars swear the car feels more planted and stable. Also, Shinoo told me that one of the GUT designers is a former F1 engineer (IIRC).
The nice thing about the GUT wing is that if you don't like it, it can be removed without leaving visible holes in the clam exterior or deck lid.
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Here are some more... showing attachment points inside boot.
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Serebo1, your car looks very sweet. Thanks for the pics.
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Thanks - actually, I'm a bit embarrassed as it hasn't seen a wash in a week, but you get the idea.
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Nice looking car, Serebo! I love the GUT splitter painted body color! I'm planning to do the GUT splitter in dark grey and get the Rev diffuser, should look great with CF side scoops!