Interior Exterior
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Solotime sells this:
http://www.soloperformance.com/Shopp...20Torso%20Belt
and also this:
http://www.soloperformance.com/Shopp...ty%20Equipment
I'm interested in something primarily for track days. I've had experience with neither of the above.
Suggestions?
Scott
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I have the CG-Lock and like it. It is mentioned in a number of threads (you can do a search). It holds your hips tight enough that you don't slide around and your hips don't rotate as you take high lateral G forces.
Sector111 (an Elisetalk sponsor) sells CG-Locks slightly cheaper than the web site you referenced.
You can read more about the CG-Lock at their web page:
http://www.cg-lock.com/
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You can lock both seat and shoulder belts on our car with no accessories.
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I have a strap made for holding you in the seat. I think it was made by Autopro. I used it a lot for autocrossing and track days before I had a 5 point harness. It wraps around you and the seat with no installation. I would think that this and the cg lock would work together very well since the cg lock (have one but not installed yet) holds your waist and the strap secures your upper torso. I need to find that strap to use in the Elise.
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You can lock both seat and shoulder belts on our car with no accessories.
Hmm. I have a CG lock and like it. Sounds like I need to RTFM.
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Hmm. I have a CG lock and like it. Sounds like I need to RTFM.
It's not in the manual. What you do is yank it to a useful length and then buckle up. Or what I do is slide the seat all the way back and with the belt buckled yank it quickly. This will lock it without getting much longer. Then you slide the seat forward while maintaining tension on the belt. Much tighter than just the lap belt alone. Both lap and shoulders are held tight. It's also easy to get that clip thing to come loose on a CG lock if you have two driving a car for example. Personally I prefer the easy, free way but many like the tight-lap accessory way, take yer choice...
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If you are going to do track days, get a proper 5pt harness. Don't pfaff about with half measures.
Not a good idea to scrimp on safety.
m
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If you are going to do track days, get a proper 5pt harness. Don't pfaff about with half measures.
Not a good idea to scrimp on safety.
m
There is always something you can add. HANS. Fire suit. If I really thought I were going to wreck that badly, I wouldn't be on the track at all.
I met someone who decided that his Vette wasn't safe enough on the track, so he bought a used NASCAR, with trailer. Sheesh.
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If you are going to do track days, get a proper 5pt harness. Don't pfaff about with half measures. Not a good idea to scrimp on safety.
m
This is also tied into rollover protection..as in a better roll bar / cage. Since street belts allow you to move sideways and safely away from a collapsing roof whereas harnesses hold you bolt upright. Rendering your head the new roll over device.
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I bought my CG lock at BWR. I think Sector sells them now too. I love it and never take it off even in everyday driving. Without it my body was all over the place when autocrossing (now it's only the car). Although I might try Stan's method to see if I like the shoulder being tight too.
Stan, does it make it harder to turn and look way ahead when the shoulder strap is taught?
Jacob
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I bought my CG lock at BWR. I think Sector sells them now too. I love it and never take it off even in everyday driving. Without it my body was all over the place when autocrossing (now it's only the car). Although I might try Stan's method to see if I like the shoulder being tight too. Stan, does it make it harder to turn and look way ahead when the shoulder strap is taught?Jacob
No restrictions whatsoever. You are in your normal driving position, and can do anything there you can normally. Well...not that...
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I also wear my CG-Lock every day due to the twisty roads I drive. However, I do like have the shoulder belt loose for my daily driving so I can reach for things easier (like the passenger window, radio, etc.). I think I would only want the shoulder belt tight for an autocross run.
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I've had my CG Lock on for about six months now. It's nice, but is starting to fall apart.. the little sliding bracket keeps popping off.
That, and it has many sharp steel trim-hungry corners and edges.
And it's heavy.
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it has many sharp steel trim-hungry corners and edges.
And it's heavy.
Good point. I've been thinking of putting some starshield on the inside of my door just in case.
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I usually just twist the latch a couple times before buckle up. It helps keeping the lap belt snug.
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I have done the other methods over the years and feel the CG-Lock works a lot better than cinching, twisting, etc. Plus it is a lot easier to use and adjust. I find it to be very effective, so much so that I have helped display the CG-Lock at SEMA and the LA Autoshow over the years in my booths. I used to sell the lock but turned over sales to BWR a long time ago as my business became too busy.
Downsides are that the snap on latches do eventually seem to loosen up. The present lock I have on my Elise is over a year old and works perfectly, but I have seen this on other cars. This does not affect how well the CG Lock works, it means that you might accidently pop off the latching part when you go to use it. The other negative is minor, but you need to be careful when unlatching the lock... you do not want to unbuckle and toss the buckle to the side as you might normally do. It is heavier and could damage the door.