A&Q about Lotus
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Nobody has asked yet...
...how much does a Lo-Jack weigh?
xtn
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THEFT RATES FOR LOTUS PASSENGER VEHICLES
Year Make Model Thefts Production Rate Type
1991 LOTUS ELAN 0 159 0.0000 Car
1991 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 28 0.0000 Car
1988 LOTUS ESPRIT 1 325 3.0769 Car
1985 LOTUS ESPRIT 1 350 2.8571 Car
1986 LOTUS ESPRIT 1 350 2.8571 Car
1987 LOTUS ESPRIT 3 350 8.5714 Car
2002 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 100 0.0000 Car
2003 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 96 0.0000 Car
2004 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 39 0.0000 Car
1999 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 121 0.0000 Car
2000 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 200 0.0000 Car
1997 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 121 0.0000 Car
1998 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 54 0.0000 Car
1993 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 113 0.0000 Car
1994 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 211 0.0000 Car
1995 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 241 0.0000 Car
1990 LOTUS ESPRIT 0 102 0.0000 Car
1989 LOTUS ESPRIT/TURBO 0 800 0.0000 Car
No data from 2005-2006 yet, so the Elise isn't even on here.
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Yeah, those are the numbers I remembered.
I think if an Elise had been stolen between 2005 and 2006, we'd be the first to know.
Although now that I'm reading the bureaucratese (sadly, I am fluent in that language) it looks like they only track new cars stolen within the first year. It's based on FBI data from the NCIC -- submitted by all local law enforcement agencies.
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Forty-four Pontiac Azteks were stolen in 2003. What the hell were those thieves thinking??
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Originally Posted by xtn
Nobody has asked yet...
...how much does a Lo-Jack weigh?
xtn
Haha... An installer once told me, the transmitter is about the size of a deck of cards.
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Originally Posted by Taxcheat
Forty-four Pontiac Azteks were stolen in 2003. What the hell were those thieves thinking??
Just doing their part to get them off the road.
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Originally Posted by kestrel74
They'd never be able to sell IT OR the parts !
yeah but cars like these get shipped out of country. and all they need to steel any car is a flat bed and it happens alot more then you think.
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Originally Posted by StarLight111
yeah but cars like these get shipped out of country. and all they need to steel any car is a flat bed and it happens alot more then you think.
So that's where Val is getting his parts... hmmmmmm...
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As far as the Elise goes, the only case I've heard of was an S1 in Australia in 2005, and ended up being extremely determined joyriders. They had to disable security systems and break into a residential garage to get the car, move another car out of the way, and break into the house to get keys for both vehicles.
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Thats how many of a given model year were stolen, not when said cars were stolen. The 1988 Lotus could have been stolen last month for all we know.
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Originally Posted by milehitom
I though about getting Lo-Jack installed, but my dealer talked me out of it. He explained that in the inland U.S., there was no market for a stolen Elise-it was too unique to hide, not expensive enough to warrant the risk and didn't have enough usable parts to chop up. However, he thought Lo-Jack was a good idea in a port city, where the car could be stolen, whipped into a container and shipped quickly to a "less legally burdened" country.
Tom
So what good does lojack do if your car is in Kazakhstan?
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Originally Posted by delise
I could hand my keys to a person who had never been in an Elise and say I will be back in 15 minutes if you can drive it away it is yours. I would bet most people would spend about 5 minutes trying to figure out the door opening mechanism and location. 5 Minutes manually locking and unlocking the door locks. Then 5 minutes pushing buttons after setting off the Panic alarm. Then spending 5 mintues figuring out how to physcially get into the car. Then I don't know if they would ever figure out how to get it started. And since I leave it in gear they would probably end up in the wall since most modern cars won't start if the car is in gear. In other words WRONG !
You said it. When I'm tired or distracted, *I* can't even get it to go sometimes.
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Originally Posted by milehitom
I though about getting Lo-Jack installed, but my dealer talked me out of it. He explained that in the inland U.S., there was no market for a stolen Elise-it was too unique to hide, not expensive enough to warrant the risk and didn't have enough usable parts to chop up. However, he thought Lo-Jack was a good idea in a port city, where the car could be stolen, whipped into a container and shipped quickly to a "less legally burdened" country.
Tom
Haha... my dealer tried to talk me *into* it. I declined for the reasons mentioned in this thread. Also, I don't care for the idea that they won't tell me where it is (not that I couldn't find it if I tried, but I resent the idea).
Second, I have two friends who had low-jacked cars stolen (both Subarus, coincidentally), and neither was recovered. The police told them that the thieves often get them into shipping containers, thick-walled warehouses, or underground locations, and then the Lojack is useless.
Kudos to your dealer for not trying to talk you into a dubious add-on.
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