Q: Originally Posted by Gizmo There was a car at the West Coast Lotus Meet (the Sport Elise, I believe) which had a
cardboard placard on the dash which said,
"Do NOT Lick This Car!"
I think there is a picture of it on ET somewhere. I just don't have time to
search for it and link to it right now. THAT's funny! ... it's not the first time I've shared these stories on elisetalk, so I wonder if the driver of that car had read my first post about it. If they had the same experience that's just too odd. I just realized that my posts were in semi-related threads but never had the proper title or home.
I'm waiting for Lotus to include a tag line with the Magnetic Blue color that reads, "Lickably delicious"
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Originally Posted by SweetDaddyD Now, I would let someone lick it though, just to watch. lol. Let's start a cam site- lickmyelise.com
Ok, I will start
We caught this one in the act
What would you do to this perp
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Originally Posted by Obsidian My Elise is always locked when it's in a parking lot. At least 80% of the time the key lockouts are in the secure position too. Alarm is always set as well.
If anything is ever left in the cabin it's only my 25-disc leather CD case in the mesh behind the driver seat. If they want all those burnt compilations so bad I guess they can have them. And the suction-cup mount for my V1 stays on the windshield until I can find a suitable place to mount it this winter.
Guess only other thing would be windows up, They would have to literally climb up on the car to get in. If somebody did that they would damage the car, and they would be held by me for the police to arrive and I would do my best to have them charged with vandalism and have them pay in full.
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okay i'd LET her lick my...bumper!!
its a bit different then a snot nosed kid...which from earlier post everyone knows how i feel about kids!!!
if the guy was in MY car i would have made sure he was attacking me when he got out!!! well atleast that would have been my story!! my car my story!
people are just freakin idiots. plain and simple!
I LOVE THE FLORIDA LAW!!! and actually this happened to my father while he was in miami! he shot and KILLED 2 illegal hatians who were trying to steal his car outside of his hotel room. when he and the security guard approached them from behind bushes. they hit the guard with a bat and dad opened fire. one in the head and the other in the back as he decided this car theft deal wasn't for him! the state of FLORIDA sent him a concealed weapons permit 1 month later and the sheriff invited him back as often as he'd like to come!
absolute true story. i talked to the sheriff my self!
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First: Punch yourself, then punch him. Originally Posted by Obsidian The alarm had gone off. I’ve noticed that it won’t go off continuously though even if there’s someone in the cabin. The alarm will go off for around 30 seconds then shut off for a little while, then go off again after some undetermined time. It had gone off, and I had set it properly, it was just in the “quiet cycle” or whatever you want to call it. Everyone is very right about the sensitivity of the alarm. You can’t really reach into the car without it going off. But I had been in away from the vehicle for about 15 minutes.
I have the pictures at home but I’m hesitant to share them online.
As far as getting physical goes, I’m an armature boxer of 5 years and before that was in full contact martial arts including Goju Ryu, Capoeira and Kali Stick Fighting (over the last 18 years). You have NO idea how much I wanted to punch him on his way out of the car. But I know that the legal ramifications of attacking someone on the street with my training aren’t going to be considered self-defense.
At that point I’m allowed to do only what I must to protect my property. If a potential car thief flees you’re not allowed to shoot them in the back. That level of retaliation isn’t considered necessary at that point. If one were being car jacked that’s a different story altogether because it involves personal safety.
I agree with the people that suggest that looking is OK, but not touching. I believe that it’s wrong to feel up other peoples property or family members without permission.
BTW, the wife comment was very clever.
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Originally Posted by Obsidian I described the scenario to the dispatcher on the phone who said if there was no damage to the property that there was little they could do.
Wrong, damage or not it is breaking and entering of a vehicle. Whether they take anything or not, even putting your hand into the open area that would normally be covered by the roof constitutes B&E. The dispatcher is not a cop nor an attourney and was flat out wrong. You had specific evidence of the crime, you had the information needed to prosecute, etc. They dropped the ball on it. I *DID* didspatch 911 for a few years in Tampa. At least I spent my time reading the legal books and riding with the deputies and learning the answers instead of reading books, gossiping about which deputy the girls wanted to bang next, etc. If you still have the info handy it's not to late.
Regardless of what the dispatcher says, there is an easy way around them. The simple phrase "I demand a deputy/officer/trooper" is a mandatory response whether they want to come or not. That's not up to the dispatcher or supervisor, that's the rules, you say it, they have to come.
I have also come out to find people sitting in my car, once with the alarm blaring away. The results were significantly different than your encounter.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Baker Inquiring minds in the Twin Cities area need to know the name of this place to be avoided. Fortunately, there are a lot of other Bakery choices all over the place.
The guy sitting in the car is the first I've heard of that. To climb over the door and sit thru the alarm shows real interest. And what a story he told too. Crazy. I've been rolling the windows up lately when the car is briefly left somewhere with the roof off. With that said, the roof won't be off much longer up here. Winter solves all problems. The bakery is named Patrick’s French Bakery and it’s got incredible pastries and bread. I enjoy going there because I can’t find that kind of quality bakery anywhere else. I just have a healthy distaste for a portion of the clientele now. Before these experiences my perception of this particular area was affluent well-to-do individuals. Now I view them as pompous dinks that expect you to cower and obey while in their shadow. But they’re the same “normal” people, it’s admittedly my perception that’s shifted.
Looking at the map it seems to share the border of Edina and Richfield in Minneapolis Minnesota. It’s a fantastic bakery that I highly recommend to anyone, just not anyone driving a car that they care about.
Notable trendy locations nearby include the Shouthdale Shopping Center (with the Mini Cooper dealership that refused to sell me a car in 2002) and the Galleria. The area reeks of smugness.
Also worth noting, both of those days I didn’t take up two parking spots. I’ll only do that if the parking lot is over half empty and I’m unable to get a curbside space. I’ve appreciated the Elise because it’s so small that when you park within a few inches of a curb you’re usually a good foot from the line and the space next to you.
I had the hard top on my car for the last 3 weeks ... up until Saturday!
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First off, I'd be looking around for her husband. Notice the ring on the finger in the first pose. Could you imagine a tag team like that? First you approach her and then he approaches you
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Originally Posted by delise Guess only other thing would be windows up, They would have to literally climb up on the car to get in. If somebody did that they would damage the car, and they would be held by me for the police to arrive and I would do my best to have them charged with vandalism and have them pay in full. Yeah, that's the way they were ... whenever the car has the top off and I'm not in it, the windows are up ... this is where the two nicks come into play. He put his foot on the TOP of the door to get over the window. I didn't notice those marks until I left the scene and cleaned the car the next day. So I objectively have to admit that they could have been from anything ... but logic would suggest that it would be a great place to put your shoe if you wanted to jump into the car with the windows up...
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Originally Posted by pilot First off, I'd be looking around for her husband. Notice the ring on the finger in the first pose. Could you imagine a tag team like that? First you approach her and then he approaches you
You have a very keen eye
I think I found a picture of her husband
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One thing I can't stand is coming out when you have the top on and windows up and finding peoples noses pressed to the glass. Does it really matter what's inside my car? Are you looking to steal it? I printed up a big bold sheet to put on the floor that says "What are you looking at, thief? but never bothered to put it in. My luck they'd kick it or break the window for spite instead of actually being properly embarrassed..
I didn't mind the breast prints on either window though.. I just wish I was in the car when they were made!
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Originally Posted by DragonRider1 One thing I can't stand is coming out when you have the top on and windows up and finding peoples noses pressed to the glass. Does it really matter what's inside my car? Are you looking to steal it? I printed up a big bold sheet to put on the floor that says "What are you looking at, thief? but never bothered to put it in. My luck they'd kick it or break the window for spite instead of actually being properly embarrassed..
I didn't mind the breast prints on either window though.. I just wish I was in the car when they were made! This is why I carry a detail kit in the boot. When I see people touching it and saying, "Man, this car is clean." I offer them up the opportunity to clean it.
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Originally Posted by DragonRider1 Wrong, damage or not it is breaking and entering of a vehicle. Whether they take anything or not, even putting your hand into the open area that would normally be covered by the roof constitutes B&E. The dispatcher is not a cop nor an attourney and was flat out wrong. You had specific evidence of the crime, you had the information needed to prosecute, etc. They dropped the ball on it. ... I realize I had/have legal grounds to pursue this guy, but to what end? What am I going to sue him for? I can’t definitively prove those two chips were from him. I guess I understand the dispatcher’s point that in the end, nothing is really going to happen. It’ll cost me money to go after the man for no damages ... Cost the city resources only to give Mr. Upstanding Tax Payer a slap on the wrist. And he really didn’t DO anything that caused real harm or irrefutable damage.
Anyway, it ended up OK. I’m still bitter about the whole thing, and I’m just floored by what some people think is acceptable behavior these days. I guess I’m not the type of person that would want to even bring this to court. It sounds like the whining cry-baby attitude of a child to me no matter how I try to justify its legitimacy. I get the point that there are litigators for everything in the United States, but I don’t think that’s necessarily a good thing in society. But I have relatively odd views on how I think society should work. They aren’t too far off from those of the Floridians.
Originally Posted by DragonRider1 I have also come out to find people sitting in my car, once with the alarm blaring away. The results were significantly different than your encounter.
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Originally Posted by pilot First: Punch yourself, then punch him. Clever plausible self-defense save for the potential witnesses in a busy strip mall
MANY thoughts of getting him to swing first crossed my mind as I approached my car. Insulting him, his wife, his mother ... anything to get him to swing at me first. But a real concern I always have is breaking bones or killing someone with a well-placed punch or combination. It's not a pleasant thought to spend the remainder of my days behind bars over a guy who liked my car... insurance costs, court fees, lawyer fees ... all these things I think about when I'm outside a ring and so mad I want to hit someone.
There are many more things to do with my time other than spend them in a courtroom or police custody. Imagine the possible damage to my car had the police taken us BOTH down to the station that day, for questioning.. it would have sat in that parking lot all day/night. When 20 more of the same type of people all want to jump in for a photo opportunity (or worse).
These are things I really considered as I was trying to keep myself calm.
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Originally Posted by Patricko Ok, I will start
We caught this one in the act
What would you do to this perp I'd do the same thing. I don't really go for blonds. And women that use their attractiveness to get away with things don't float my boat (or men for equalities sake). Don't get me wrong, she's hot, and I'd totally do her (were I single and given the opportunity), but I wouldn't take her home or give out my phone number
I don’t care how hot you are, no jean rivets on my paint! If she wanted to take those pants OFF and do the same thing … then there’s a different story entirely. And much better pictures for the forum
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Originally Posted by Obsidian Edina and Richfield in Minneapolis Minnesota[/url]. It’s a fantastic bakery that I highly recommend to anyone, just not anyone driving a car that they care about.
Yes, the problem's not with the bakery so much as the location. As a local (Twin Cities resident, not from Edina) I might blame the problem on the proximity to Richfield rather than Edina. 66th Street is an area in transition. I'm also surprised by the daring behavior of the staid Minnesotan population ... I would've thought the suburban types would have thought you were in their club due to the car or choice of business and respected you and your property. Weird all around. I can hardly believe they had the nerve to climb over the window. Wow.
When I think of core Edina I think of 50th and France, and the locals there have always been friendly enough. If this hadn't happened 2x I'd say it was an anomaly. Go back and tell us what happens this time!
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I greatly respect your self-restraint. I think it's often found in those who have studied martial arts for many years; the responsibility of power. I taught Tang Soo Do many years ago, and it was always central.
I do feel that the creep who violated your property need to be punished; while criminal and civil remedies may be counter-productive, you should by all means post your pictures of the guy and disseminate them as widely as possible on the web.
The censure and ridicule he will experience when his friends and coworkers see the shots should provide justice.
Best regards,
Leo
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At least pepper spray the mofo. What a piece of dirt. I lock up everytime, there are some weird asswipes out there.
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Originally Posted by Obsidian I have the pictures at home but I’m hesitant to share them online.
After what he did you consider showing his pics on some car board of him sitting in your car an issue.
Best you didn't go to violence anyway... you also have to consider that some people don't fight fair and may have a gun.
Funny thing... i saw on display at a local CVS store a picture of some asian chic with my car. I was like wait that's my freaking car in that pic..lol
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Originally Posted by DeathWish I do feel that the creep who violated your property need to be punished; while criminal and civil remedies may be counter-productive, you should by all means post your pictures of the guy and disseminate them as widely as possible on the web.
Oooooo good idea. If you remember what business he said he was the manager of, hack their website with the story and the pics.
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