Who has the killer wing at Topeka?

A&Q about Lotus

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Originally Posted by Val Doesnt take a genius to realise its not gonna work. That is if you have any idea about aerodynamics...

Lol some of you guys take this serious

Im sure this was done as a joke, since its quite obviuos that no-one would be serious with this wing.
With this attitude Sputnik would have been #2.



Why didn't you disable the antilock system?
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fzust,
What's ICE-Mode?
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Originally Posted by fzust Sorry, but you are WRONG

edited by randyc
Well, im sure you can give us some evidence and research you did to EXPLAIN why im WRONG.
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I think it's 'Win on Sunday, buy on Monday'.....
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Originally Posted by Val Well, im sure you can give us some evidence and research you did to EXPLAIN why im WRONG.
There is some very low hanging fruit in this thread but I am not going to pick it...
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Originally Posted by Patricko There is some very low hanging fruit in this thread but I am not going to pick it...
Oh come on..... We need something replace the scottyb/Hass thing now that it's over.
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Originally Posted by RacyTracy Oh come on..... We need something replace the scottyb/Hass thing now that it's over.
It is staring you in the face, I do not have to state the painfully obvious...

PM me in one week if you have still not figured it out
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Originally Posted by RacyTracy Oh come on..... We need something replace the scottyb/Hass thing now that it's over.
What makes you think that is over
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Originally Posted by fzust "Lotus, Ice-mode exists..."
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Originally Posted by zvezdah1 fzust,
What's ICE-Mode?


Under hard braking (possibly trail braking a little and entering a turn, more often a left hand turn than right), you might hit a small bump or lock up a wheel and engage the ABS. Instead of ABS pulses, you get a HARD pedal and the car IS NOT slowing down. Must now lift the brake pedal and re-apply.

I've had this happen at numerous events. On AD07's, on A048's, on Hoosiers. Mostly on asphalt.
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Originally Posted by Patricko There is some very low hanging fruit in this thread but I am not going to pick it... I like fruit.
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Originally Posted by O4dW ...






Under hard braking (possibly trail braking a little and entering a turn, more often a left hand turn than right), you might hit a small bump or lock up a wheel and engage the ABS. Instead of ABS pulses, you get a HARD pedal and the car IS NOT slowing down. Must now lift the brake pedal and re-apply.

I've had this happen at numerous events. On AD07's, on A048's, on Hoosiers. Mostly on asphalt.
Yep and lifting and re-applying doesn't always work!
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Originally Posted by Val Well, im sure you can give us some evidence and research you did to EXPLAIN why im WRONG.
I did the research. More than 100lbs of downforce at 45mph. I do not care to show you the airfoil simulation SW I used(It was developed by NASA). If you want proof do the heavy lifting yourself and STFU. Sorry, but when people talk straight out of their ass it is really annoying to me.
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Originally Posted by MyElise With this attitude Sputnik would have been #2.



Why didn't you disable the antilock system?
According to Robert and Randy, who've tried this the Lotus brakes are do not work very well at all w/o ABS(at the limit). Believe me, this was discussed and dismissed based on their experience. We basically tried to drive around it.
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Originally Posted by fzust I did the research. More than 100lbs of downforce at 45mph.

Originally Posted by fzust STFU
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Originally Posted by fzust I did the research. More than 100lbs of downforce at 45mph.
Wow. Good for you

Originally Posted by fzust Sorry, but when people talk straight out of their ass it is really annoying to me.
Sorry, but when people talk straight out of their ass it is really annoying to me.
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Originally Posted by fzust According to Robert and Randy, who've tried this the Lotus brakes are do not work very well at all w/o ABS(at the limit). Believe me, this was discussed and dismissed based on their experience. We basically tried to drive around it.
The Lotus brakes worked very well before ABS and the 111R

I was having a great time around ZhuHai in an S1 sans ABS...

You guys don't bitch at Lotus about the tires.

You guys don't bitch at Lotus about the dampeners.

You guys don't bitch at Lotus about the aero package.

Why don't you stop bitching at Lotus for the Brakes
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Patricko,

There is a lot of difference in impact on the competition between the things you listed and for the brakes to not stop the car.

In your opinion, do you think that what some are calling Ice Mode, does not exist?
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Originally Posted by Randy Chase In your opinion, do you think that what some are calling Ice Mode, does not exist?
I have no idea...

My point was you have "fixed" the car in so many ways, why did you stop?

You "think" you have a problem fix it and move on...
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Originally Posted by Patricko I have no idea...
On this, we agree!

Look, nobody has said we are not working to fix this. I know I am.
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Originally Posted by Randy Chase On this, we agree!
So we agree that we are not sure it exists...
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