A&Q about 350Z
Q:
I need your opinion here...
Auto Salesmen are not a special breed of humans . When you think about it, they are people like you and I, trying to earn a living.
The dealership management teams, I believe are responsible for thee poor quality service we have all experienced:
If you were paid on strict commission it would only be normal to use any trick in the book to ensure that you can hold as much profit to feed your family. They do not make money going on test drives or chatting with auto fans on the lot.
Also please note that dealer mark-ups are among the lowest in the retail industry. Do you realise that you are paying up to 1000% mark-up when you shop in a retail store?
"You get what you pay for" = "You get the service you pay for"
People in the business know that selling cars is 90% of the time a non profitable business. Dealers regularly lose money in their sales department. Making deals at $100 ove invoice will not pay staff, advertising, rent, electricity....
Next time you go to a dealer, remember that you really get f*cked when you got to the service and parts dept. That's where the money is. I'm dead serious. They sell cars so that you can pay them to fix it.
The 350Z's that fall out of warranty will soon be a delight to fix for dealers.
Some buyers often ask for "invoice amount". I say this is an irrelevant number. What the dealer paid for it should not have anything to do with what it is willing to sell it for. Especially when Dealers regurlarly get non-advertised financial support from auto manufacturers.
You reach a deal when what you are willing to pay for it meets what the dealer is willing to sell it for. That's it...
One solution would be to make it a non-negociative business. "take it or leave it, that's the price". This way, we would succeed in having the salesperson focus on product knowledge and actual "selling" ,not negociation tricks that upset customers.
But I guess we wouldn't be happy either if that were the case....
A:
well salesmen shouldn't act like they know what they are talking about when obviously they don't.
78 280z Black Pearl 132K miles? could be 232k miles? who knows...
"Datsun: We Are Driven"
A:
I would suggest always doing your homework before you buy any car!
Go to Kelley Blue Book's or Edmunds' websites to see what the car is selling for.
Then when you go visit the "sharks" you can make an educated decision with your purchase.
The majority of the car salesmen I have encountered have been dishonest and just want to make a deal. They don't listen to the customer's needs or concerns.
Just my opinion...
-Zanioed '03 Le Mans Sunset Touring Coupe w/ Nav.
Post Edited (Mar 26, 8:08pm)
A:
Number 3 here.
We all have to families to feed, but that doesn't justify lying our asses off to make a living. Especially not when people are buying a car, regardless of its inteded use, because a car is for most people the second biggest investment they have, next to a house. If you need something to take to work everyday, and a salesman puts you in a POS car that is unreliable, and needs to be in the dealer for service all the time, then that salesman is an a$$hole.
Pretending that you don't know that car is going to be troublesome after two years of reported problems nationwide doesn't make then lesser ones either.
Diego Perri
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27 on a track? i got my touring for 29 at a dealer. my father actually just saw one and got the phone number. he told me to call.
I called the guy and inquired about the Z. he was like OH YEAH the Z... asking 34. I was like what color? he said silver. and i said Nope sorry no silver for me, i don't want it. then he simply asked what would it take for you to take a silver. I said give it to me for 29. He said OK!
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