A&Q about 350Z
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TOKYO — Nissan is planning to shoehorn the 4.5-liter V8 that powers several Infiniti models into its 350Z sports car to create a 400-horsepower hot rod.
HOOOOT!! I'll get one! and then put a turbo or superchager on it! It's gonna fly!!
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=108154
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"Nissan is planning a Z sports coupe slotted above the current Nissan 350Z called the Nissan 450Z. The upgraded model will feature a 4.5 liter V8 engine which would likely be a tuned up version of the VK45DE from the Infiniti M45. The VK45DE makes 340hp currently, but reports the final product will feature 430hp. Of course, all that crazy power requires all-wheel drive, so that will be standard as well." paultan.org
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wow!
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Someone will TT that VK45DE engine. Then, watch out!
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Gentlemen,
Seeing is believing
Mspeasl
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Mspeasl,
You are correct:
Lets take a trip down memory lane..
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oh boy the zcar will never get AWD and will not have 430hp, when will you grasp that concept...is it so difficult or are you brains so small? That will be GTR territory, what sense will Nissan make in releasing the GT-R? The Z will always remain true to its root as a RWD sports car.
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Well... maybe we can just hope that when it comes in(if it ever does) it does it below the sticker price of a GT-R... I think that we can all agree that the new GT-R will be well into the 70K+ range.... as much as I would love to have one.... I might just settle for a 45k-50k Z.
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I really really doubt that Nissan is going to do such a thing with the Z.
From a business perspective, it would be terrible rationale to release a V8 version of the Z. The car needs to be lighter, with the same horsepower (maybe slightly larger displacement), or simply rebuild the engine to take a stock turbo. To release a V8 would flood an already saturated market with heavy, straight line bullets with no personality. Think about it: Mustang GT, Vette, SLR McLaren, Charger, Viper (actually a V10, but you know what I mean). Nissan needs to keep it's sights set on the right target. Let's create a market, not try to bully our way into one that already exists.
Two, I agree with Grazehell. Nissan wants to set a stage for the GT-R to be exclusive. This 450Z concept would simply crowd it. 'Nuff said.
But, time will tell. I wouldn't have the slightest bit of interest in buying one, personally. I know some of you purists already think the 350Z is a bit too far (maybe another zip code) from the "heritage" of the Z, but the 450 would be on another planet. At least my 350 still has a V6, RWD, and offers completely unique styling and performance at a great price.
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I'll throw some positive fuel on the fire: GTR == Infiniti. This could just be Nissan badging a weaker GTR for the non-Infiniti market in the same way they badged the G35 as a 350Z.
It's a remote possibility, but I see a weird similarity with the GTR... same stats being thrown around, AWD, etc...
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It makes sense to me that there will be a cheaper version of the GT-R ie the 450z, GT-R coming under infiniti.
As common trends go, most likely the GT-R will come out first.. cant wait for an official prototype of the 450z though...
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I agree with some of the statements above, the weakpoints on this car is not the power delivery or powerplant at all. Want to make this a greater sportscar? Spend the money to shed 300lbs off of it with whatever lightweight parts Nissan wants [put it at 3k lbs FLAT], give it an extra 30 horsepower, and release it as the true 'Track' version for an extra 6-8k. It's got a great V6, a great transmission [not taking into account durability], great diff, and wheel/tire/brake setup already.
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Read the original article in Autocar magazine online. They must have been in need of filler articles because it's nothing more then could be's, maybe's, and might be's. And the car they show is a yellow 350Z, not the one pictured above. Is the car above suppose to be the new 450Z? If so, I couldn't find it in the original article in a French magazine. My guess is it's a filler image. Don't expect to see this anytime soon unless someone tries to do it as a project seperate from Nissan.
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"... badging a weaker GTR for the non-Infiniti market the same way they badged the G35 as a 350Z."
You're truly no friend of the Z33 or its owners.
I wonder if you ever contribute anything constructive on the 90-96 forum. You rarely do here.
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If the GTR wasn't confirmed for launch in 2 years, these rumours might be believable. But if the 450Z gets a V8, then the GTR would have to have a V8 twin turbo, which Nissan has never speculated on.
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I have decided to stop speculating on future Z's.
Everything that I thought the Z started off as has changed. Straight 6 replaced by V6's. Then when it seemed as turbos and t-tops were a z tradition from '79 on, those are now gone.
Always has been a 6 cyl, but now theres talk of an 8 cyl? I dunno what the next Z will be, but I know that its pointless trying to figure out what Nissan will do next. AWD has never been on a Z but the way things are changing I wouldn't put it past nissan.
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whats the big deal if they make a 450z dont like it buy a v6.
A v8 z would be awesome and have the standard v6 as an option.
the z has only became a better car over time.
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Post Edited (Nov 29, 11:00pm)
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I didn't say i didn't like the idea, I said its not what the Z started off as.
I was just illustrating the changes in design over the years.
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>"... badging a weaker GTR for the non-Infiniti market the same way they
> badged the G35 as a 350Z."
>You're truly no friend of the Z33 or its owners.
>I wonder if you ever contribute anything constructive on the 90-96 forum. >You rarely do here.
Blah blah blah, go harass someone else. Maybe you get your kicks out of following my posts and writing bone comments, but your constant trolling gets old real quick.
The difference is you just don't want to see Nissan make a 450z, but most of us would jump at the chance to buy one.
Post Edited (Nov 30, 12:08am)
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i think it would be a nice option for future buyers... a v-8 option... that's almost like the defferences between v-6 mustang and 4.6 ltr GT stang... then cobra... i just don'tlike the front facia... could definately use some work on that...
BUT!!! how would they make it interchangable to v8 or v6 in the same frame when the v6 already looks pretty crammed... anyways... if they do happen to do something like that... i hope they change the name... 450Z just doesn't have the same ring to it...
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Now thats a Z to be reckoned with.
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well i guess this rumor has resurfaced beyond that old french article, but seeing is believing. I have a hard time believing that nissan would do this. It really defeats the purpose of the car. What they would be way better off doing is offering a lightweight stripped trim line
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What would I know about what Nissan will do? I thought there'd always be a straight 6 in a Z, but look what's happened.
I might as well speculate about what FSU's going to do about its crappy passing, running, blocking, defensive, and kicking games next year. I care, but what would I know?
Or speculate if Roush is going to fully support Mark Martin's final year with a top notch crew and crew chief. I care, but what would I know?
Or speculate on whether the stock market is going to support my quest to stop working earlier rather than later. I care, but what would I know?
I don't care what Nissan will do. It's not even up for placement on the mental agenda, essentially because my speculation would be woefully uninformed and ultimately pointless because it would be a blind guess ... again toward something about which I do not care.
You asked ...
Post Edited (Nov 30, 7:26pm)
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DAYUMMMM PPL.......
I personally think there should be a REAL forum that only actual 350z owners can go on, not other 350z haters... it will save the time of actually readin the subject at hand and not the other filler junk thats above.
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But that's "freedom of speech" for you.
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>I don't care what Nissan will do.
Ok, and that's fine. I want to see Nissan do well so they can build more sports cars, because most other cars on the market suck.
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Regardless of what they do with the engine, I'm with Zlover57. I hope they can keep the weight down. I like muscle cars and have owned and raced them. But to me there is something special about the agility of lighter weight. I'd kinda like to keep the same engine that I have now (3.5) but get the weight down to 2900 lbs. If that's not realistic due to costs, at least keep it in the low 3000 lb range. High power plus low weight is a fun ride.
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If they go the v8 route, the Z33 will head in the same direction as a the Z32 and just become to expensive for the 'average' car enthusiast.
and a 4.0 V6, while that would have power, it doesn't really seem like a sports car engine, slow rever. Personally I'd like to see a single turbo option on the Z33. keep it inline with the rest of Z generations.
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I'm just not bothering to ponder endlessly what it may or may not do next.
I also happen to think Nissan has done well for itself with the 350Z. You never have.
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>You never have.
Speak for yourself.
It's the best sports coupe platform in the affordable market today, and I'm the first to admit that. Do I want Nissan to improve it? Yes. But is is good? Yes. I think the only thing better is a 2005 Vette, but it is a lot more expensive.
All is not black and white.
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I think the new Z should have smaller but more powerfull engine means lighter. The overall weight should be at least 400lbs lighter than the current one. The weight could reduced by also making the body smaller. I think the current nice looking Z appears a little too big in dimension, it looks heavy. Porsche looks really smaller than Z. But, of course, nissan should not change the basic shape of the z. (top roof). If that could be achieved (with at least 400bhp), that could make it 0 - 60 at least 3.5 sec. 1/4mile 11 plus second. (should give gt3 a lesson in term of weight, speed, suspension and comfort)
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And you expect to pay how much for this uber car?
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i know that i'm pretty well satisfied with my Z... i don't think i would sell it for just about anything... it have to be something i wanted my whole life...
but as for trading it for another Nissan... instead of "upgrading" to whatever they shell out... 400,450Z there shouldn't be much point... the Infinity GT-R is there and i'm definately going to have to check that out...
But i'm kkeping my Z untilit kills me... i'll maybe get the GT-R if i can afford it... and can own both cars...
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How can anyone compare the 350Z to a new Vette?
"General Motors put out an overhauled Chevrolet Corvette in the later part of 2004, but in 2005 Corvette sales have actually decreased."
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"Nissan has a winner, and it shows in the sales charts. The 350Z is now the best-selling car in the sport-performance segment, with every indication of following its illustrious forebear, the 1970 240Z, to classic status."
The Vette may boast more power, etc, but it's no bread and butter seller for GM. The 350Z is still considered a great value in the sports car market, exactly what it was meant to be. Will the 450Z (or whatever) end up a bloated over-priced luxo-sport cruiser, I doubt it.
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yall are getting to crazy in changing the 350z, nissan should just fix the tire problem and shred alot of weight on it, and i guess its kinda like the 240z like nissan wanted it to be, ONLY because its popularity
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