A&Q about 350Z
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"This customized 1974 Datsun 260Z is owned by James Biondo of Beverly Hills, Mich. Biondo says the car will do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and has been clocked at 136 in the quarter mile at 11.34 seconds."
2.8 second 0-60.... is it just me or does that seem a little....quick?
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Eric Laures
1992 N/A
Post Edited (Oct 31, 9:18pm)
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under the hood?
"YES I will finish what I sta"
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1977 280Z blue 2+2,
1973 240z
1977 280Z coupe in restoration progress
Post Edited (Oct 31, 9:32pm)
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the site doesn't list any other performance information, it's just a quick mention of the car.
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Eric Laures
1992 N/A
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sure is ugly...
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looks like a neon :(
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james biondo has a right up somewere.i can't remember were i saw it.i can tell you it's got a v-8 and that is a ford taurus mold for the hood.or they copied the taurus to get that look.
Z's are like woman maintenance,maintenance,maintenance!
1971 240Z gunmetal metalic 5sp 4:11 gears in the rear
illuminas and purchased from the original owner w/136k original miles
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It looks a helluva lot better than half of the pieces of sh** Z's people are driving around. Most of the 1st generation Z's out there are owned by young people and they are junk.
Post Edited (Nov 1, 4:51am)
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That's because all the old people didn't take care of them, but rather let them rust away...
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1982 280zx
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I've seen the car in person. Nice workmanship, but the Taurus headlights don't do much for me. He works at Ford, so I guess he wanted to add some blue oval to his rising sun. Also, the car looks better in person than in that picture.
Jeff
Northville, Michigan
'78 280 10:1 CR, Web Racing cam, Arizona Z Car header, urethane bushings, Tokico springs, Illumina struts, Panasports, Maxima alternator
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ALL the old people? :)
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It'd wanna look better in person, that looks photoshopped lol
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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Well, those headlights have to be good for at least 300 RWHP....
Phil
1981 280zxt
5-speed conversion,3.9 R200,Eibach springs,Tokico struts,Energy Suspension,K&N CAI,AutoMeter A/F, Boost, Fuel Gauges,Cusco Strut Bar,Greddy B Spec II boost control,Jeffp 3in mandrel exhaust,Magnaflow,Spearco Cooler, HKS BOV, 10 psi
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"It looks a helluva lot better than half of the pieces of sh** Z's people are driving around. Most of the 1st generation Z's out there are owned by young people and they are junk."
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....So it's our fault to try and save these cars that previous people (all of the Z's me and la260z have bought have been owned by OLDER people) let rot, get rolled (mine), engines blow, etc???
Sure... we lack the funds of a well off 45 year old guy... and yeah we'd love to buy a rust/dent free Z... but we can't... and for a fraction of the cost and over the span of a few years, they come out looking better than most (bubbles car LOOKS awesome... im not mentioning the motor.. :P ).
Hell... my P.O.S is getting a new roof and rear quarter for x-mas. Then with just a fender and hood (paintjob is a given)... and my car would look better then a hell of a lot of Z's on here. It's all work... it's not hard work, it's just tedious. It's something most guys wouldnt even bother doing... which is why us younger kids with the time and drive to do so... work on them!!!!
At least there aren't gawdy wings and APC stickers on our cars... those are the ones you pick on. Leave the rest of us outta it.
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YAAAAAWNNNNNNN...back to the post***
i kinda like the front end... but the front lip could be a little different.. and itd be awesome to have headlight buckets on the stock headlights, just with modern projectors and such molded in. imho.
77Z- (mfg. 7/77)
"Arm-chair Autox'er"
Post Edited (Nov 1, 7:17am)
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that car has a lot of motor and little weight. I talked with Jim about making the front ends. I kinda like it, looks more modern - here goes - like the new Z should have!
Matt
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yuck, why would you want the front end of the car to resemble a taurus? I mean the taurus makes a decent DD, but cmon now.
Currently own:
1990 2+2(For sale soon)
1991 TT(parts for sale)
1993 NA(parts for sale)
1993 Convertible(Converted TT)
1996 TT(with 9,124 miles on it)
"When you do things right people cant really tell that you've done anything at all."
l
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It's just different and not some cobbled together fiberglass kit with seams and gaps. It will also allow much higher top end speeds, although it is illegal for a class like Tony runs.
It's not my favorite by far but I don't mind it.
Matt
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"It looks a helluva lot better than half of the pieces of sh** Z's people are driving around"
True.
The Z was meant as a cheap arse car for the masses. It's still that way (just read the 70-83 Tech Forum and see that people still don't want to do proper testing, repairs, or take their car into a shop).
Young people who get a Z do tend to drive the crap out of then and could care less about the upkeep required to keep them clean and stock.
Older people tend to have more money and experience (so their cars tend to have better maintenance and are driven more conservatively).
Most post from teens in the Tech forum that just got a Z are "how can I make it faster". Judging from posts here, teens DO crap out a Z's as fast as they can. At least that 260Z was modified better than 90% of the others here that try to slap in a V8 mod.
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Hey don't lump us GOOD young guys in with the crowd just looking to beat his friends civic. Just because we happen to be a few year younger than the rest of you is no reason to look down on us. We don't have the biggest wallets in the world and we do what we can to bring these cars back to life, sure it takes us longer but we get the job done. The rest of the young guns on here that just want more power and more power and more power to take to the local races and take on hondas and mitsubishis are the ones you're angry with. Not us GOOD ones.
1972 240z w/L28, tokico shocks and springs, and a 5 speed waiting. Also running high performance ultra mega blinker fluid, that's at least an extra 50hp to the wheels.
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo 5-speed. Belongs to me until my friend get's back from Iraq.
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i could be wrong here but if it will do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds shouldnt it do better in the 1/4 mile than 136 in 11.34 seconds. it just seems to me that with the 0-60 time it should scoot thru the 1/4 mile a lot quicker. or is the 0-60 mph time with it sitting in one spot and just spinning the tires. a true 0-60 time should be acheived without breaking traction. my challengers best time in the 0-60 without breaking traction was 4.8 seconds and it turned a 1/4 in 10 seconds flat at around 140. i know thats an entirely different animal but im just curios how they acheived the 0-60 time. mine was also with the front wheels 3 feet in the air thru 2nd gear.
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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my motor is stock. i may put flattops in on a rebuild... but i dont see the need.
yeah i get beat by hondas... so what? im happy with my car... some people give me crap about it, some dont. oh well... its my car.
there are good teen Z owners out there. so yeah.
77Z- (mfg. 7/77)
"Arm-chair Autox'er"
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Comrad Grrr, LOL, that's why we used words like "most" and "tend to" and did not use words like "all" or "every" that would have lumped all teen owners in the same category.
When it was said that it looks better than half the Z's out there, I'd have to agree from the Z's that I see on the road. About half look like crap, the other half look fine. I don't particularly like that car, but it does at least have matching wheels and good paint and unscratched glass and complete bodywork mods.
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hehehe iam young , i keep my z clean and i dont burn it street light to street light, and i keep it stock, i guess that me datto240z is the exact opposite yalll talk about...
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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nobody gives me crap about my car, there always saying"wanna sell it"
hybrid yourz is one of those POS's that you talk about, right?
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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My daily driver is a complete rotissery rebuilt 3 years ago, refurbed from the frame rails out in my garage. So yes, I am able to "judge" honestly when other early Z cars are a POS. Half the ones I see on the road I would not own if they tried to give them to me.
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you guys are all acting retarded.. we all love z's here, and we're all here to help each other... there are young guys that have really nice z's, and also ones that have rusty garbage z's.. same goes for the older guys..
73 240 L28 with N42 head.. bored .40 over, cam, headers, exhaust, su carbs with sm needles, 5 sp, lsd... toyota brakes, chevy alternator, msa roll bar.
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Rusty or not, at least they're still good cars.
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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what mate said ^ except for the retarded part.i would have used another word:)
Z's are like woman maintenance,maintenance,maintenance!
1971 240Z gunmetal metalic 5sp 4:11 gears in the rear
illuminas and purchased from the original owner w/136k original miles
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>Just because we happen to be a few year younger than the rest of you is no reason to look down on us.
Get used to that, it's been that way around here for years...
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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i dont think anyone looks down on anyone here just because of age.. its what we say and how we present ourselves to the rest on this board..
73 240 L28 with N42 head.. bored .40 over, cam, headers, exhaust, su carbs with sm needles, 5 sp, lsd... toyota brakes, chevy alternator, msa roll bar.
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In a perfect world that would be true...
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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I've looked at it 5 times,I think it's still ugly :(
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on the original post, yeah that cars ugly, and #'s don't seem to add up..,i'm not the smartest guy on here but they just don't seem right, should be much better 1\4 mile i think...i like my rusty P.O.S.,,,soon to be nonrusty P.O.S.,,,,some people may not have had as much time or money to restore their car,,you shouldn't judge people or talk bad about em for what they drive,,,you don't know why they are driving that car...
83 280zx turbo
03 chev. tracker
92 acura integra
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thats fast. he would need some serious rubber and suspension work to get the car to hook that quickly.
If all were equal, none would be strong.
Ballistic,Ruler of Interstates
Stage XX+ 1993 Z32 NA
"SoulTaker"
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"you shouldn't judge people or talk bad about em "
NO ONE is putting down anyone. If a car is a POS then it's a POS It's completely fair to judge cars. If I see a rusty POS then I call it a rusty POS. Some great Z people drive rusty POS cars but the cars are still POS. So what?
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funny how ive never ever seen a picture of any of hybrid's cars....either finished or in the process of beging restored...
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High Performance NA L28 engine, Performance Suspension, Full Interior, 2500lbs, and room for 3 HOT girls in the car!
shift_2+2
13.9 @102.7 on 205mm street tires and 110 octane :-)
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Hybrid my post just happened to fall after yours so it sounded like I was attacking you. I wasn't. I was basically just agreeing with Team Zleep.
1972 240z w/L28, tokico shocks and springs, and a 5 speed waiting. Also running high performance ultra mega blinker fluid, that's at least an extra 50hp to the wheels.
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo 5-speed. Belongs to me until my friend get's back from Iraq.
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Bubbles, it's even funnier how 95% of the car pictures are posted by only 5% of the users, LOL.
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hybrids car is a POS
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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Actually I think he did post a picture once. Wasn't it blue? Maybe I'm just dreaming things- this old mind - or young mind - who knows - I forget
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1982 280zx
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mikeatrpi, yes and no.
That one I posted last year was the 260Z done in a medium BMW slate blue on 17" rims (but that one I refurbed for my son and so it's now technically "his" car this year, and not mine). I'm running the red 280 I posted a few years before.
Yes, Datto240z, damn right I also own a POS. That in the next project (a 1973 stamped 260Z) that will give me something to do this winter. For $600 and no rust and perfect interior, I could not pass it up. It will be an easy refurb when you start with a great body. Just some one-stage paint and a engine swap and some steel wheels will change it from POS status back into the nice looking "stock Z" staus. Very reto.
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I for one am neither old or young, so I can say this:
1. I'm thankful for the "old guys and girls" who remember when the 240 came out and fell in love. They are the originals who were the reason Datsun sold so many (more than they could build in the beginning).
2. I'm thankful for the "young guys and girls" for carrying the torch so these cars will be around for another few generations or until we run out of oil. It's a testament of the classic syling that still turns heads today.
3. And to keep this Car related: Although I respect this guy's obvious hard and capable work, I can't understand why he would mess with the beautiful lines of this car to such a degree. All that work and it doesn't look like an improvement in styling to me. Shame.
02/1976 280Z
An amateur trying to restore the Z. I should have taken the blue pill!
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Yes. He could possibly do 2.8 on race slicks and a very good hookup. I did disagree with this when we first talked about is a year ago.
Benefit:
It is light weight and has a good power to weight ratio
It is not aerodynamic so it will be affected greatly as it goes over 100
Doubts
It is light weight so hook up will be hard with so much power
Skinny tires
Original Thread:
1993 300zx NA
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Preserve this post for posterity - because
I am coming to Hybrid's defense -
What he said makes sense and he has posted excellent advise on the tech side of Z cars.
I respect his knowledge.
When we disagree it's about the way he says things to people and in this case I didn't see anything offensive - it was down right mild and reasonable to some things he's said to people.
But we've all done that a time or two. Some more than others and some a lot more.
Hybrid just likes to use a baseball bat when a golf club would do on the course.
Now about my POS (like family I can say that, but it would probabaly start a fight if someone else said it to me) - I love her and I will do all that I can to restore her to stock - but everytime I want to spend money on the cosmetics, the mechanicals need work more.
Some day I will learn how to post pictures and have the cars in a shape to want to post them.
Ed and Jeanne's
ZXelda 1981 280 ZXT: ZXena 1990 300 ZX
1941 Buick Special Sedanette (Betty)
1956 Dodge Royal (Dorothy)
1971 Buick Riviera (Rita)
1975 Ford F-150 Stepside (Fiona)
1992 Firebird (Frieda)
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Are you sure you are in the right post erz?
1993 300zx NA
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Erz, it's probaly because I'm old enough and secure enough in my manhood not to really care what any younger people think about my choice of cars or what they think of my projects. Usually it's the young people that seem to care what everyone else thinks when they make buying decisions.
The customized car in question is not my cup of tea BUT it is well done, complete, and aparently damn fast. It's in a hell of a lot better condition than, as I said, half the other 30 year old Z cars I see.
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So it is written, so shall it be done!
People Are Idiots, Just look around here and you will see!
Tony D: "Knowledgeable but Caustic"... rationull
My brother from another mother calls himself "Willie D"
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The King has spoken
all is right in the world.
(I wasn't thrilled with the custoized job either.)
I like all the Z designs as is but have a problem with the Z33 rear deck - it looks too fat, tall and bulbous for the rest of the car.
However in a convertable since the rear roof line comes lower it doesn't seem as bad. Also those cars seem to look better in dark colors.
Now if your're going to customize - I love the look of the 120K Jaguar - that's a race car look - classic.
Ed and Jeanne's
ZXelda 1981 280 ZXT: ZXena 1990 300 ZX
1941 Buick Special Sedanette (Betty)
1956 Dodge Royal (Dorothy)
1971 Buick Riviera (Rita)
1975 Ford F-150 Stepside (Fiona)
1992 Firebird (Frieda)
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It shouldn't matter what your car looks like, whether it's rusty, or shiny, or both for that matter. The point is we're all here cause we enjoy the same type of car and everything about it. We may have small dissagreements about details but lets not forget why this thread was started. The car in my opinion is not good looking and not ugly either. It's different and that's it. the 0-60 time doesnt' make alot of sense to me seems a bit quick. Even for a v8 lightweight z. Maybe tonyd can help on the realities of this one. Can't we all just get along.
Ask stupid questions get stupid answers...
'73 240z... New Project
'74 Corvette Stingray... Old Project
'99 Honda Civic Si... Daily Driver
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In thats cars defense, it was built around the same time that taurus came out. I remember someone posting pictures of it back in the day.
And ragging on us young Z guys aint cool. Make it sound like its the young peoples fault they arent as nice as you old guys garage queen Zs.
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Justin T
72 240Z L28, 5-speed
77 280Z 5-speed (t-boned 8-25-04)
80 280ZX automatic(retired)
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OMFG OMFG OMFG!!! hes back!!!!!!!
and dude... im saving that pic.... its hella pimp.
77Z- (mfg. 7/77)
"Arm-chair Autox'er"
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Yeah print it out and put it in your wallet! LOL ;)
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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Is that a pair of white Numb-Chucks, Tony is holding???
Yeah, I can picture Tony looking like that on the toilet....LOL
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1975 280Z (Stock)
303 Emerald Green
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nah! i think its a scroll with some sort of regal decree on it, no doubt!!
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1980 280ZX coupe
2001 maxima
1994 F150 4x4 van works custom truck
170000 and never needed mech repairs
1996 ford explorer -they cant all be good
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lol.
77Z- (mfg. 7/77)
"Arm-chair Autox'er"
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0-60 in 2.8 secs. I highly doubt that. I just dumped my clutch at 4000 rpm today and sat there waiting for it to hook up for about 2 seconds. Had to let off the gas a little to hook it, then sat and spun again in 2nd gear. He has to have some very sticky slicks and lots of suspension work to hook up with that much power.
1970-numbers matching-Slow restoration! Temporary(78-L28, 78-5, 3.54, 6-1) XR700, Hi6s, Poly-U
1970-no matching numbers Work in progress
1973-parts car rust bucket
1993-F150 modified 4.9L inline6, 311k, chip, cam, 3in hiflo cat, lowered 3/5, sway bar