A&Q about 350Z
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http://money.cnn.com/popups/2006/autos/reliable/5.html
The Crapstang is low on reliability.
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well its the V6 version, not the GT!
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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yeah, but more people actually buy the V6 than the GT..
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1985 300ZX n/a
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Because I'm sure Ford built the V6 version crappy but they built the V8 version reliable. Come one Datto, they get built at the same plant but same people and machines. True the V8 wasn't on the list but I'm sure the V8 isn't too far off from making it. Ford hasn't been known as reliable since the 70's. It's a wonder they are still in business with as crappy as their cars are. Then again most car shoppers are blind and go with looks and price over quality. Personally I'd rather pay a little more and know I'm getting a quality car.
1977 280z: Intake, exhaust, high flow cat, header, euro damper, cam, MSD, adj. FPR, 3.7 lsd, F+R sway+strut bars, 2580lbs
1984 300zx: intake, exhuast, high flow cat, headers, JWT ECU, F+R sway bars, F strut bar
06 WRX TR
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Presently driving a Tahoe POS rental
96,000 mi and the drivetrain vibration seems like something is going to break any second
heater and fan have a mind of their own and the cabin goes from hot to cold all the time
need to use two hands to fasten seat belt!!!! Can do it with one in any japanese car. How I hate big three POS heeps of metal... why don't they at least try to copy the efficient japanese designs that already exist?
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wow porche,mercedes,and the solstice are on the bad list.atleast the Z didn't fall on that list.but it didn't make it to the good list either.
Z's are like woman maintenance,maintenance,maintenance!
1971 240Z gunmetal metalic 5sp 4:11 gears in the rear
illuminas and purchased from the original owner w/136k original miles
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well, DUH!! ;-)
--Denver 6-29-1999 1st post.
82 280zxt 4 spd auto
73 240z--lsd, cv axles
ferget donations, I'm into blackmail.
spindle pin puller for sale.
I can't believe some people spend $15 on shifter bushings in the B trans
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OK,
Well, let's see how NISSAN did, shall we:
- The #1 crappiest truck,
- The #1 crappiest SUV,
- The #2 crappiest small car
- The #4 crapppiest wagon/minivan
The Ford Mustang (ranked down at #7) has nothing to be ashamed of. Nissan on the other hand definately DOES have a lot to be ashamed.
The Ford guys need to start using the phrase JapCrap again when talking about Nissan,
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Really you guys are incredible, lol... Ford isn't anywhere near as bad as you make them out to be, you guys need to put down your brand loyalties...
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Ford over here in Australia are excellent! Aslong as Ford USA dont design and assemble them Ford do make good reliable, fast cars! :) lol
Vroom...
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88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
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I just dont see how the Titan got rated in the worst truck category, yet the Frontier is in the best truck category..... Those were all pretty low blows to Nissan, though. Didn't Nissan used to be a very reliable car at some point or another? Seems like they are going down the tubes:(
As for Ford, I thought the Fusion, the Mercury Milan and the Lincoln Zephyr were all based of the Mazda 6 car. It seems like most of the american cars that made the list were derivatives or based on japansese cars. I can't imagine this is too good for their image...
1985 Nissan 300ZX Turbo "Rose": 85000 miles, 5 Speed, Red/white exterior, Burgundy Interior
Mods: 87 digital dash, 240SX front parking lights
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The Titan is new, the Frontier is not. Even so the "new" Mustang was a lot better than the "new" Titan.
And yes, I was unfortunate enough to buy a new Nissan and yes it deseves to be among the crappiest new cars I have ever owned and NO way would I buy another Nissan anything. Like txz082 said, brand loyalty is dumb.
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Author: valkyrievf2x
Date: Nov 10, 6:15pm
"Didn't Nissan used to be a very reliable car at some point or another? Seems like they are going down the tubes:(""
Wow, with Renault's "stellar reliability record" in the 80's here in the USA who would have ever thought Nissan quality would go down the tubes after Carlos Ghosn's Renault took the Helm????...................HAHAHA
When you join up with the FRENCH.... NOTHING good will ever come of it!!!
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ZCAR.COM member since Aug 1998
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Hybrid77z, I have seen you bashing Nissan time and time again. It seems as though you have a negative comment about Nissan in almost every post you make. No where did anyone even make a comparison. You just brought it out of nowhere. And I'm really getting tired of you saying "You people and your brand loyalty". What is your deal? Really?
As for the list, do you have any idea why both the Titan and Armada are there but the Frontier and Pathfinder are not? Did you even look into what they are citing? It is the front brakes. And since every Titan and Armada up to now have been brought in for replacement of them the pure numbers are going to make it look as though they are unreliable. The same is true for the Mercedes. One defect that is covered by the manufacturer for free. I personally have a 2005 Armada. The brakes began having shudder at 7k miles. One day at the dealership and not a single problem at 30k. So I guess you are now going to accuse me of brand loyalty, right? Well, yes I am loyal. Because in comparison, Nissan always has been among the best built, longest lasting cars out there. And aside from early teething problems thier vehicles are among the most highly praised in all auto magazines. Maybe we should start accusing you of "consistent brand bashing". And really, this is a site about Nissan cars, don't you think you might run into just a little bit of brand loyalty for them? Get with reality buddy.
Brian
Post Edited (Nov 10, 9:45am)
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My wife's grandparents hated their Mercedes. Right after they bought it the rear A/C controls stopped working and it's never worked since. They now have a Maybach that they love. They only drive the Mercedes when it's cool, but then again how often is it cool in Rancho Santa Fe (San Diego).
One thing I noticed on the reliable list is that the Eclipse was on it. Then again I haven't seen any broken down on the side of the road.
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Z32 Had to sell for DD 06 Sentra :(
S30 one of these days I will get around to putting it all back together.
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aussi fords are so sweet
what's that one turbo inline six they have in one of the Holdens?
and they have the baddest ass versions of the monero/GTO
82 280zx turbo 5 speed
86 300zx NA 5 spd
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Actually, Holden is a GM brand, not Ford.
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Those listings aren't accurate. It counts a failed brake system the same as an interior peice that doesn't fit well or window grease streaks.
It doesn't say how the dealer treated the customer or how it was resolved. Of course it sounds like Nissan is still going to lose that battle.
The most unreliable cars by my rough definition, the quality overall and reliability of major componenents vs regular driving and reliability of major components vs abusive driving. Benz and BMW are close to the bottom of that list.
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Long live the Z...
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it's too bad the don't sell those ford performance vehicles in the U.S.
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'73 240Z
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Nismo73, Hybrid77 is a keyboard ninja, bottom line. He contradicts simply because he can in safety, masked by the internet, ever notice how things get said over the 'net that would never fly otherwise? I mostly ignore it, but it does get old sometimes...
I really like my '04 4x4 crew cab Titan, and yes, I did have the same brake issue, but the dealer straightened it out, I actually got 45k out of the original brakes, but I'm pretty easy on them.
I also own an '04 Sentra SE-R spec-v, and love it, not a very good looking car IMO, but a blast to drive, from reading some of his posts, I believe Hybrid has a Sentra also, the "crappiest" new car he has ever owned, but I have no idea what kind of problems he's had, maybe I'm just lucky?
My younger brother has a base model 1.8s Sentra and he loves it, and that kid has ZERO brand loyalty and is doing good if he can remember where the gas goes in :^P
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
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nissan, like a rock
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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...and I just bought a new '06 mustang... as a daily driver and to pick up "the bitches" :D ... lol
"The Z's disease won't make anything turn black, wither, and fall off, nor turn cancerous." - Tony D
"Take it to a track where BOTH drivers mean business or it's just one sided mechanical masterbation." - Hybrid77z
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Thier definition of reliablity is too vauge to make me take that seriously.
I worked in a nissan dealer for a while, the only thing I ever saw titans getting work on was the brake recall.
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72 240Z L28, 5-speed
77 280Z 5-speed (t-boned 8-25-04)
80 280ZX automatic(retired)
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I like the new 'stang, I hope the retro Challenger turns out as nice, the pictures I've seen so far look pretty good.
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
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The new Challenger willl Kick AZZ!!! It is my favorite new body style comimng out with the new Camaro a close 2nd.
Most new cars today ARE BUTT UGLY!!!!!
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^^^ no doubt, I have always liked Challengers, and I own a 1969 Camaro I've had for 17 years, most new stuff just doesn't have the same kind of individuality that some of the old stuff does, there are exceptions of course, but I like the "retro" kind of theme of the new 'Stang and Challenger concept, I don't know what to make of the Camaro concept car, I see one picture and don't like it, and another picture I do... weird...
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
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"Nismo73, Hybrid77 is a keyboard ninja, bottom line. He contradicts simply because he can in safety, masked by the internet, ever notice how things get said over the 'net that would never fly otherwise? "
I am contradicting nothing.
I read the whole story and said what was in the story. It's not "me" saying it, it's Consumer Report and CNN-Money. The story IS ON THE NET from a reputable sourse so you can't very well say that I'm somehow off-base or saying things that don't fly in th ereal world (Consumer report IS REAL WORLD).
As far as bashing, I paid for my car so damn right I can bash Nissan for all the dumb stuff that keeps breaking on my car, or was designed wrong, or parts that have beeen replaced and then re-recalled since the replacement parts were faulty too. If you think I'm alone, why don't YOU read the recall lists or actually read Consumer Reports before you make another unfounded, baseless attack post.
Nissan itself knows that it's in deep doo-doo. Here is a BusinessWeek report:
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jul2006/gb20060725_130890.htm?chan=search
Masked by the net? Well it looks like big players are saying the same thing I am so I'd say that I'm in the majority...
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Interesting ,the article says that the Canton Mississippi produced vehicles are the LEAST RELIABLE in the auto industry! Maybe Rangel was right about his negative comments regarding Miss this week!!! LOL
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12.804 @ 107.26 mph on crappy street tires with Dual SU Powered 2.9L Stroker!
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Hybrid, I have never met you in person, and it's probable I never will, and you may be the nicest, most down to earth, intelligent person around, but in my opinion, you come off as a jerk with all of the negative comments you continually make, not just in this post, but nearly all posts I have seen you "contribute" to. I realize there are at least two sides to everything, and perhaps you simply enjoy playing devils advocate, but it seems as though you relish the opportunity to bash and be negative.
I don't have anything personal against you, as I don't even know you, but generally if I see a post in a thread that says Hybrid77, I simply skip over it and on to the next one, as I can't recall ever seeing a post by you that has ever been anything but counter productive keyboard ninja bashing...
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
Post Edited (Nov 10, 12:15pm)
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my grandmother rented a ford fusion with 50 miles on it, the first 5 miles she drove it the tensioner pulley froze and killed the belt..
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My buddy sold a new Maxima when the 6 speed came out and the tranny broke the first night of use.
I was trying to sell a new Ford Contour and tranny broke on the Demo ride.
Don't even let me tell you about the Neons and Hyundai's that broke within 100 miles.
Can't remember ever having a problem with the new Hondas I sold. Too bad dealership management sucks Azz at Import stores.
Stuff happens
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12.804 @ 107.26 mph on crappy street tires with Dual SU Powered 2.9L Stroker!
ZCAR.COM member since Aug 1998
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My parents owned a Ford Crown Vic. One day when they started it, it caught fire and the interior burned up. Ford said it was an electrical problem and replaced the interior, but the car was totally screwed up after.
I will never own a Ford. But that is just me. Nissan does seem to be heading down the ranks a bit, I didn't pay much attention to the other categories.
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A friend of mine had the V-6 in his Mitsubishi Montero throw a rod through the block at less that 5k miles, the dealership installed a new engine and it blew up on his drive home, due to NO OIL, they installed the new long block, pulled it outside, he came and got it, and BOOM.... oil pan as dry as a bone, I bet someone at the dealer got in a wee bit of trouble over that...
I bought a'93 AWD talon TSI with 45k on it in '96, and it was always broken, timing belt, trans (twice) and transfer case, all before 65k, bummed me out too, as I really liked the car, went great in the snow, as long as it wasn't too deep, that has to be the worst car, reliability wise, I've ever owned, but I bought it used, and more than likely very abused...
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
Post Edited (Nov 10, 12:56pm)
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NLINE6, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your perspective. z32d00d started a bashing (Crapstang ) thread here (not me). If anything I came to the defense of Ford by putting their 7th place finish INTO CONTEXT. Don't start blaming me if Nissan had outstandingly bad marks in comparison with with Ford.
That's not being negative, it's not being a devils advocate, it's called being HONEST. Honda and Toyota were best, Ford had at least 3 quality leaders. Nissan was in the toilet, well below even Ford. Nissan and their investors also read Consumer Report so HOPEFULLY Nissan will finally get the message and fix their quality issues.
Here is the very first line in the article for those that refuse to read it:
"The Ford Fusion midsized car and its Mercury Milan sibling scored big in Consumer Reports' annual new car reliability survey, just beating out the industry's quality standard-bearers, the Honda Accord V6 and Toyota Camry V6." Now THAT is a big deal.
"Twenty of the "Least Reliable" vehicles are domestic models and just five, all from Nissan, are Japanese." that is a HUGE problem for Nissan.
Truth is truth.
Nissan has, by brand name, produced the least reliable cars of 2006.
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I just read the links you provided. It really says nothing. It cites some complaints from over a year ago and does not address any of the recent praise Nissan has gained from the way they handled the situation. Not to mention that is wrongly claims that Nissan sales are down 30% from last year. They are down yes, but on 5% here in the U.S., not 30% from this time last year.
"That's not being negative, it's not being a devils advocate, it's called being HONEST. Honda and Toyota were best, Ford had at least 3 quality leaders. Nissan was in the toilet,"
Nissan in the toilet huh? Well, from the listing you provided, among the most reliable lists you will find the Frontier and the Infiniti M. This does not exactly follow in line with your "in the tank" comment. And about the 5 Nissan vehicles among the worst. You fail to mention, intentionally I am sure, that the Titan, Armada, and QX56 all suffer the same problem of front brake shimmy. All of which have been repaired under warranty and all of which have not returned. So, when you have 3 models that share the same parts and therefore the same problem, it can be made to look worse than it really is. Now, my problem with you is that;
1. You are not saavy enough to look deeper into a report than the headline and see no problem spouting off about it. This makes you an unintelligable instigator.
or;
2.You are aware of the underlying details and are willingly omitting them when you make these comments. This makes you unethical and deceptive.
Either way, you are not nearly as credible as you might like to think. You may very well have had a problem with a new car you bought. Personally, I think you are the type of person that looks for things to be upset about and would complain about a stack of gold because it's too heavy.
Brian
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Yes, in the toilet.
Like you said, Nissan (USA) has LOWER sales figures during a time of high gas prices. You don't have to look too deep to see that lower sales during a prime sales environment is cause for concern.
So you say Nissan lost 5% sales in the USA (while Honda gained 30% during the same time)? Don't try to tell me that number is a good thing when people were buying other Japanese brand cars faster than they could be produced. Nissan LOST sales even in the most favorable sales environment? Hardly a point of praise for Nissan(USA).
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How exactly does the high price of fuel create "the most favorable sales environment"? I don't follow new car sales, is there some direct correlation between high fuel prices and a favorable environment for car sales? Just curious...
I'm not defending Nissan here, I like them, and I haven't ever had a problem with one I've owned that I feel has been out of line with vehicle ownership, vehicles are a mechanical thing, and to think that you can drive one, of any make, and have absolutely zero problems is being a bit unrealistic, a brand new car SHOULD last a very long time with no major issues, given the state of automotive technology, in my personal experience, Nissan has made and likely still makes some of the most reliable vehicles on the road, but the newest Nissan vehicle I own is a 2004, maybe they're getting bad? If that is the case, and I end up with what I consider to be an unacceptable issue with a vehicle of any brand, I will simply sell it and take my money elsewhere, so far that has not happened with myself and Nissan...
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
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high gas prices is a favorable tennis shoe market.
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'05 350Z Chrome Silver Touring
'73 240Z
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maybe Bicycle market too? walking sux
73 240z, turbo'd, haltech E6K, 550's, spearco. new and improved, now with 60-1 T4, 372 whp and 365wtq
Post Edited (Nov 10, 2:52pm)
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>z32d00d started a bashing (Crapstang ) thread here (not me).
You made the bed, not me. :)
Crapstang is a term of endearment. My friends call my car the Zcrap.
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We can throw out stats all day long. Like the fact that Nissan had a disproportionately large sales number for 2-3 years up to this point. The fact that they are less today than they were then is really not too telling. They are still up from 4 years ago and are still releasing new versions with good results. Now, you personally may wish to see the demise of Nissan. You will be waiting a while because it won't happen any time soon. Let's look at the real world for a minute and not just numbers. If Nissan was really "in the toilet" as you say, why would Ford, GM, and lately Daimler-Chrysler all be looking at joining them? If Nissan really was a market disaster, I doubt any of the big three, let alone all of them, would waste any time in talks with them. Quite to the contrary, all three are courting Nissan in hopes of duplicating the Lazarus-like success they have had in the last 6 years. People are still buying their cars, and they are still in positive revenue. Minor quality issues have arisen and been dealt with properly and quickly. As pointed out earlier, any new car will have problems, what is important is how they are adressed. Anyone here read about the Ford GT? All of the ones sold to this point have faulty engine seals that cause them to leak engine oil. What did Ford do to take care of these $150k car owners? Did they pull the engines, disassemble, and repair them? No, they installed generic expanding sealers that can be bought at the corner parts store for $5. That is not taking care of the problem or the customer. I would bet that Ford or GM are more likely to go under before Nissan does.
Brian
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" I don't follow new car sales, is there some direct correlation between high fuel prices and a favorable environment for car sales?"
High gas prices ($0.45/gal) put Nissan on the map in the 70's, the "Datsun Saves" was real.
Gas this year was also very high (around $3.00/gal) and this time Nissan LOST sales. Similar Japanese carmakers again vaulted forward with their high mileage cars(well, all gained but Nissan).
For Nissan to LOOSE sales when gas prices spike speaks volumes about what their car are (and what they are no longer).
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>what's that one turbo inline six they have in one of the Holdens?
The VL Calais Turbo, it has a Nissan RB30ET in it...
Probably the only good Holden ever made in history, the rest of their cars are piles of crap! Including the Holden Monaro/Pontiac GTO! Using a chevy motor is cheating as far as being a real car manufacturer goes, Holden have never been able to make their own engines that are any good LOL
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nismo73>
As far as brand loyalty goes, I was referring to people who spout out "Ford is crap!" the second they hear anything from them because they are loyal to nissan, or vice versa...
People need to be more objective.
84 300zx AE
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I'm in agreeance with that somewhat, I hate the look of all the new Nissan cars and as I posted above Ford are doing amazing things on this side of the globe.
1000HP Ford XR6 Turbo engine anyone?
Look at them headers glow, this engine was modified and tuned by a company here called Nizpro.
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Ford IS crap... I have worked on a number of Ford vehicles, and after taking them apart to fix them, and seeing how cheap most of the parts were made/designed, it made me even more scared to drive them.
Buick is CRAP also... so is Cadillac. Oh, and don't even get me started on Jeep... when the cherokees were all over the place, and almost new, almost every single one of them I saw on the road was making HORRIBLE noise. And Chrysler... crapola again. HAHA.. and Dodge... poop again.
Brand loyalties... nah... I've owned Chevy, Pontiac, Datsun, Toyota, Plymouth (piece of crap K-car... engine blew to smitherines at about 70k, the tranny poured out fluid if you parked with the car tilted towards the driver's side, and it would eat map sensors every few thousand miles... other than that... that car was in like new condition).
I don't judge brand names unless I have had experience with them.
'81 280ZX-N/A 2+2 - stolen on 11-9-2006 :-( - recovered 11-13-2006 :-D
'77 280 - now back to being my project car.
'76 280 2+2 - parts car - slowly being stripped
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Correction, Ford USA is crap! :P
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Every company has their shitty cars.
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About the reason honda and toyota gained sales during the gas surge roughly around June while Nissan didn't; Nissan didn't have the Versa out yet. During this time my wife and I were in search of a new car wanted to get the Honda Fit, problem was so did everyone else. Same goes with the Yaris. People were in such a hurry to get a good gas mileage car as prices went up cents per day that there was a point where one week I called 3 honda dealerships inquiring about the Fit and Civic and all three told me they had NO 4 cylinder cars left on the lot. At the same time Nissan was having problems with the sentra and altima 2.5's which problem kept some people from buying sentras and Toyota was asking way too much for the corolla (maybe trying to push sales even more for the Yaris and Scions). In any case had Nissan had the Versa out at that time I'm sure their sales would have been up there too. They waited too long and lost out. Personally I scored becuase since we couldn't get anything economical that we liked but needed a new car regardless we got the WRX. Still meets all the needs we wanted in a new car except for gas mileage but it has the power I wanted plus the awd.
1977 280z: Intake, exhaust, high flow cat, header, euro damper, cam, MSD, adj. FPR, 3.7 lsd, F+R sway+strut bars, 2580lbs
1984 300zx: intake, exhuast, high flow cat, headers, JWT ECU, F+R sway bars, F strut bar
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300ZXT, that pursuit looks a lot like the monaro. seems both holden and FPV get their designs from the same school.
How are the monaros in the reliability scale in AU?
the rebaged morano here goes for about 22K and with 400HP is a very tempting car.
1972 240Z, L28, R200, MSD (fuel system rework)
1991 CRX SI, many many mods
1982 280ZXT (engine and wheels are staying, everything else is going to the junkyard)
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Holden are the kings of imitation, they follow in Fords footsteps like a little brother, a stupider and less talented little brother at that! lol
Seriously though, the Monaros didn't sell well at all here hence them being exported to the US! A hugely hyped up car based off a classic that didn't pay off basically. You hardly ever see them around, that price is on par with what they're sold for here converted but they're not really worth it if u ask me. The only good thing about it is the engine, so as for reliability I guess they'd rate well but the rest of the car is just regular Holden junk. I guess you need to know the recent history of Holden to get a full perspective on howcome they rate so poorly. Their cars have looked the same for the last 10 or more years, all they do is change the headlights and bodykit and bham there you have it, a new car for top dollar. The Monaro is no exception, it's just a 2 door version of their regular 4 door Commodore flagship sedan with a Chevy powerplant in it. They're cheap for a reason! As soon as you drive it out of the dealership, that's it the car is worth nothing. The resale value on new Holdens is SO low, I'm talking cars that are 2-3 years old being sold for 1/4 of their purchase price.
In Bathurst, which I guess is our equivalent of the Daytona 500, Holden and Ford used to be neck and neck in the rankings back in the 90s but due to the recent rebirth of FPV, Ford are really in a league of their own now with Holden forever playing catch up.
Holden aren't a true car manufacturer nowdays, they dont make their own engines, they steal cosmetic ideas from other car manufacturers and cut corners wherever possible. The very latest Holden Commodore has a Mitsubishi chassis for example and even uses the same doors! And although a stereotype, which holds up more often than not, Commodore owners are complete dickheads on the road lol
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that's not very promising for me!
too bad FPV does not import their models in US. i might still get the monaro, err, the "GTO" since i can get a VERY good price on a 2005 model.
1972 240Z, L28, R200, MSD (fuel system rework)
1991 CRX SI, many many mods
1982 280ZXT (engine and wheels are staying, everything else is going to the junkyard)
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It doesn't suprise me that you can get a "VERY" good price on it LOL As I said above the resale value is extremely poor on Holdens and I imagine that would trasfer to the U.S market too. If you're after a cheap V8 then go for it I guess, but they're not exactly highly regarded from the country of origin to say the least. They were exported for a reason, I like to compare them to Fosters beer haha as nobody here drinks the crap so they sell it to Americans. I'm sure the Monaro performance wise would be good, but only due to the use of the powerplant from Chevrolet.
I dont think FPV will ever export to the US, one reason being emission restrictions and two being that local manufacturers would black ball it by all means possible as they couldn't keep up hehe
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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Ford Mustang GT owns yall
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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On that note ive been looking into purchasing a new/slightly used car... GTO seems pretty spiffy to be honest, under 22k for an 04 thats still under warranty.
84 300zx AE
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lol, Corvette unreliable. Maybe it's because the roof falls off?
1976 280Z
Draw-Through Turbo, 10 PSI, 4 Bbl Holley, E88, L28 (Flat), 10:1 CR, 5 Spd
1974 Corvette Stingray:
350, 400 Automatic, T-Tops, 8.5:1 CR, 78,000 Miles
1994 Acura Integra:
1.8L, 5 Spd, 189,000 and Counting!
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>Ford Mustang GT owns yall
I doubt it could touch any of the cars in the FPV range...
85' 300ZX NA
86' 300ZX Turbo
88' 300ZX Turbo
89' 300ZX Turbo
300ZX Turbo Project
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Wow, this is heated.
All I know is that a car can be made either good or bad, but the owner dictates its longevity.
My observations from my limited (non-gearhead point of view):
I've seen more older model foreign cars on the road then U.S. cars.
I've owned a Mitsu Galant for several years with no issues.
I've owned a Nissan Altima for several years with no issues.
I currently own a 01 Nissan Maxima, with no issues, and I will own her for another 10 years. (so i can save for my new Z).
I also baby every car I own. I am not a gear head, and when not drunk out of my skull...he he...I realize that Japanese auto makers put a damn good product out there. Can arguements be made on both sides, yes of course.
Am I brand loyal: HELL YES!!!! Nissan takes care of me and I take care of my Nissan.
Simple statement from a simple man.
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well i will say this i've owned two brand new nissans in the last three years.my 350Z and my titan.i sold the 350 after i bought the titan.not because it had problems.i had the feathering on the 350 and the brake issues on the titan.so what! nissan aligned my car and gave me new tires.they aslo replaced the pads on my titan.rotors were done but they did not do the pads according to the sales manager.i love the titan probably my favorite car that i have owned.i will say this if nissans sales are down it's probably because the cost of they're cars have realy climbed upwards.i was at the dealership truck was getting an oil change.man! the prices of the cars in the show room were incredible.way up from a year ago when i bought the the titan.i've got 10k on the titan and love it!
Z's are like woman maintenance,maintenance,maintenance!
1971 240Z gunmetal metalic 5sp 4:11 gears in the rear
illuminas and purchased from the original owner w/136k original miles
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Define: Reliable
My 1956 Dodge and Jeanne's 1975 (parts of it) Ford start up everytime - get us from point A to point B and back - pretty much all the time in the last couple of years.
My newest car is a 1992 Firebird - it works now after $300 fix for fried ignition and ant-theft device.
So what do I know? The first and last new car I bought was an AMC Gremlin.
The good thing about Hybrid is he makes a long dull night interesting and his contraryness does keep people on their toes.
You guys are learning - attack the argument not the person. Deride the behavior of the person but not his/her being a person.
In times of high gasoline prices - investing in public transportation is a good bet.
Carry on - this keeps Zcar more interesting.
Ed and Jeanne's
ZXelda 1981 280 ZXT: ZXena 1990 300 ZX
1941 Buick Special Sedanette (Betty)
1956 Dodge Royal (Dorothy)
1971 Buick Riviera (Rita)
1975 Ford F-150 Stepside (Fiona)
1992 Firebird (Frieda)
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I'm in agreement with erzelda.
Define "reliable".
The V6 mustang as listed probably made the list for annoyances and NOT reliability. I don't see 2006 V6 Mustangs littering the roadways and highways of America.
What Consumer Reports does is kinda deceptive since they are reporting "predicted reliability" rankings based on an owner survey. Chances are it asked about taking the car in for any kind of service and NOT whether the car did not start and drive and get you to your destination.
The term "least reliable" might just be a bunch of spoiled kids getting a new Mustang and then complaining that the interior plastic squeeks too much or that the "My Color" instrument lighting won't display the correct color of pink. Who knows.
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^Yep, I couldn't agree more.
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1990 300zx NA
- Custom Exhaust
- JWT Pop Charger