A&Q about 350Z
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how long you think they will keep making the 350z I wanna see something new. 350zx? at least turbo charge it!!!
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I don't know about new but I saw a convertable 350Z the other day - now that I might buy (someday) the rear end dosen't look so high and fat.
I noticed the sight line of the coupe at the back is too high and too sloped and makes the hatch look way too high.
It maybe an optical illusion but the rag top up doesn't look so bad. And in a dark color too - remember - dark colors make people look slimmer - so maybe it works on cars too.
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Yeah ive seen a couple convertable 350Zs around, they're like 20k more than the hard top version aswell...
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20k more, huh? remind me not to shop where you do.
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AU dollars that is and 2 years ago but go price the convertable vs the hard top in your area... I bet it's a big difference.
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no not that big of a difference, and i'd rather have a coupe anyway, maybe a grand or so more on the base price, but the coupe is a bit heavier i think and you can't get it in a track model if you wanted one.
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Maybe the one I saw was a pimped Nismo one then, it did have Targa Tasmania stickers all over it which is a big annual car rally here in Australia. Still very cool though...
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They seem to be selling well, I see more 305's every day. Any idea on what the sales rates per year are on the 350?
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August 2002 through May 2006: 120,602 sold.
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Is that alot or not really?
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For perspective, I think that Mustang's sold more than 180,000 for just the 2005 model year. 120,000 of the 350's over 4 years is not a lot in the big picture but probably good for Nissan.
Now if Nissan made the car for around 20K and went back to a retro look(240z), I bet that they'd get their numbers up to Mustang numbers (IMHO).
Post Edited (Jun 6, 7:17am)
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Good thing they didn't do that.
Then I would have a car just like over 600,000 in America (using the 180,000 as a guide) that looked like every american "retrofied" car coming out today.
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I think a 450Z would be a better addition, use the 4.5L V8, I know I know, Z's have always had 6 cylinders, but c'mon, how does that really harm the heritage? Corvettes didn't always have the v8 either but look at that heritage today. . .
My guardian angel has twin turbos. . .
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Yeah, CantZmee, instead you get to drive around in a car that looks like an Audi TT or Mitsubishi Eclipse. :) Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Doesn't look anything like an eclipse
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Seven, it's a matter of opinion. To me, the 350Z's design falls into the cookie-cutter bubble coupe realm. The Eclipse uses similar design elements, as does the TT.
I was merely countering CantZmee's opinion with another.
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IMHO this should be the new Z. Its a pose off the 240.
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Understand what you're saying - it's hard to design a truly original look
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It's not hard at all to design a unique "look" at all.
It's only hard to design one that "looks" good.
The 350z is an example of a car that does not ooze either sexy or sporty like the original 240Z does or even like a GT40 does.
Either you have it or you don't.
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well, sure, I can design an original piece of crap, that wasn't my point really. I won't get into the discussion about the 350z looks. It's a generational thing, mainly, people in my age group love the 350 and wouldn't look twice at a 240. I love them all.
Post Edited (Jun 6, 2:50pm)
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i think the 350z is sexy and sporty. in fact the reason i bought it over some competitors was for the sportier look.
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Meh, those BMW's are butt ugly and from front on it just looks plain stupid in my opinion.
*puke*
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I am SOOOO tired of the "wish the 350 looked more like the 240" crap.
If they wanted to do what EVERYONE ELSE is doing, they would have pulled the whole retro stunt.
Also, it wasn't intended to re-create of the wheel...it was supposed to evoke the whole idea of Shift_ that Nissan has lately been pushing as their vision. The product follows the vision. Granted they wanted to carry on the legacy...but not by retracing their steps, instead by forging new ideas. Of course, I say all this but I really have no idea what the designers and engineers were comissioned by Ghosn to produce.
I agree that the 350 does look similar to the TT, but nothing like the eclipse...unless you are referring to the brand new gen eclipse which basically ripped off the Z.
I think the 240 was a GREAT looking car. I still love to look at the lines, the groundbreaking design. But I also love my 350. I love the powerful stance, the aggresive shoulders, the curved greenhouse...so yeah, if you don't love it, that's fine. I am just glad my 350 looks like a 350 and not a 240. In my perfect world, one day I will have both.
Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
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next z should be: 240zx , a 2.4L turbocharged, nowadays they can squeeze a whole bunch of horsepower out of a fairly small engine, and they should UPGRADE to a I-6, a z is suppose to be sleek and light-weight, not bulbous and heavy
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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How about a Z with the look of the old Jaguar 120K?
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ZXelda 1981 280 ZXT: ZXena 1990 300 ZX
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1956 Dodge Royal (Dorothy)
1971 Buick Riviera (Rita)
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1992 Firebird (Frieda)
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How about you guys quit wanting Nissan to copy some other car and encourage them to come up with their own unqiue design for once? :P
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I really like that hybrid that somebody built. It has a 350z dash, interior, and drivetrain. The body is a blend of the 350z, Skyline, and 240Z looks. Pretty much the only thing I didnt like on the car was the redesigned hatch.
'76 280z 150% stock; '73 240z- 83 motor and 5sp(less than 30k orig miles), megasquirt, 3-2 headers, MSA exhaust, Tokico adj struts, MSA sway bars, cali wing, NO RUST; '81 280zx GL parts car (recently wrecked)
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It's called 350Z and it's available in Nissan showrooms RIGHT NOW!!
Hurry and buy one before they copy someone else's or -- gasp --- their own 35 year old design and merge right in with the market share mavens at Ford, Chevrolet, and Daimler-Chrysler ....
Then some other camp would swoop in with cries of copying and lack of design advancement and blah blah blah.
Pretty much like this old school blah blah blah.
Geez, it's been almost four years and this crap still comes up. And I still respond to it.
Eh. Some things never change.
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Nissan can do what it wants, just make sure it looks like the S30. Right?
Post Edited (Jun 6, 8:57pm)
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Grrr you know the one I'm talking about. It was at the Westcoast Nationals the past two years. I like the new look, but I'm not sure it bears much resemblance to the family. Just like the Z32, it looks good by itself, but doesnt look like a Z. So what if 'retro' is the big thing in the industry right now. I could have told you that was coming like 5 years ago. If it doesnt even resemble an S30, how can it be called a Z? That would be like putting a fairlady badge on a left-hand drive Z. Oh wait, people do that! Look at the lesson learned by GM with the new GTO. They made it look like a hopped up Grand Prix and now they are cutting it en lieu of the new Camaro that is more unique. The Z should at least be unique. Ever noticed how Nissan is slowly making all of their other cars look like the 350Z? Even the cheapo Sentra shares design elements with the Z now. There was a reason the S30 doesnt look like a b210.
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Post Edited (Jun 6, 9:33pm)
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Nissan might have sold more B210s longer.
You got it all backwards, luv. The halo car will impact the rest of the line, not the other way around.
Whether you guys like it or not, the 350Z is Nissan's halo car.
Nyaaahhhh!!
Post Edited (Jun 6, 9:34pm)
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some of these guys never heared of HERITAGE
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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I owned a 240Z before you were born. And how much HERITAGE did you know about before you tripped across your current interest in early Z cars?
Did you realize heritage is linear and moves forward from its point of origin?
Urf. Why do I get sucked into this by a teenager?
Post Edited (Jun 6, 10:15pm)
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They should have a modern design but still be true to the Z heritage and maybe throw in some key elements like the 3 ancilary gauges, the long hood, fastback shape, straight six engine, etc.
The Z4 is the closest thing to an S30 out there, IMO.
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Post Edited (Jun 6, 10:38pm)
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>Nissan can do what it wants, just make sure it looks like the S30. Right?
That's pretty accurate there, seems alot of the earlier Z owners just want their car re-launched by Nissan again lol
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WE ARE LEGENDARY, therefor we deserve a real reincarnation, like the 1st gen mustang.....well maybe its too early for a revival, mustangs 46 yrs, z 36 yrs[pondering] ok next z should be 240zx =)
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Id buy that :)
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Datto...maybe you should call Ghosn and ask him to build a special re-designed (except not, because it would look like the S30) Z for you and your couple of cronies who think that a retro Z would actually be a good idea, while the rest of us appreciate the newer body styles and enjoy the real heritage of the Z, which is not the design but the concept....
Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
Post Edited (Jun 7, 8:45am)
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Its kinda sad to think that of all those 350z owners out there, how few have ever even driven an s130 (let alone an s30). The Z came back and most people didnt even know it was related to the earlier Zs. For all they knew it was just Nissans version of the euro sport coupe. Notice how little Z pride some of these 350z owners have. They are proud of their shiny new car and could give a $$$$ less about where it all came from. How many mustang owners do you find that cant recognize an older mustang on the street? My point exactly. Let the riot begin...
'76 280z 150% stock; '73 240z- 83 motor and 5sp(less than 30k orig miles), megasquirt, 3-2 headers, MSA exhaust, Tokico adj struts, MSA sway bars, cali wing, NO RUST; '81 280zx GL parts car (recently wrecked)
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thats what iam saying, linluv84 hit it right on the head, most 350z owners dont know what a earlier z looks like or heared of one before this website, 72n03zs are u sure u owned a 240z?
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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I know the background. I know the history. I DO give two S**Ts about Z cars...I hoot and holler every time I see any gen Z on the road (my g/f gets so irritated)...and I own a 350Z. My dream is to have a garage with each gen starting with the old S30 running through whatever the latest model may be.
Just because someone doesn't know about the old Z's doesn't mean we should shun them, spit on their name, and belittle them. Instead, let's take a constructive approach and try to educate these new Z owners on the history so they too can fully appreciate the HERITAGE we value so much....right Datto?
Previously owned: 2005 Z Enthusiast, Super Black, 6 spd.
Currently lease: 2006 Pathfinder S, Silver, Auto
"She is (and always will be) my little deuce coupe, you don't know what I got!"
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shun them! belittle them![unless its a girl] then educate them...
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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LOL. A female Z enthusiast? If I saw a hot chick driving an S30, I think my wife and I would be fighting over who gets to keep her!
'76 280z 150% stock; '73 240z- 83 motor and 5sp(less than 30k orig miles), megasquirt, 3-2 headers, MSA exhaust, Tokico adj struts, MSA sway bars, cali wing, NO RUST; '81 280zx GL parts car (recently wrecked)
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Where do you guys come up with this stuff? "Its kinda sad to think that of all those 350z owners out there, how few have ever even driven an s130 (let alone an s30)."
What other marque has owners like you that expect current model year owners to have driven previous model years, and somehow manage to fabricate some reason to hold it against them? That's beyond stupid.
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I better think on it awhile and get back to you.
On second thought, know-it-all teenagers aren't worth the time spent. I'm kicking myself now for even typing this much.
Ow. Stop typing. Ow. Ow.
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lol
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senile old farts
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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Teenager, um no. If you are having your mid-life crisis, its not my problem...
'76 280z 150% stock; '73 240z- 83 motor and 5sp(less than 30k orig miles), megasquirt, 3-2 headers, MSA exhaust, Tokico adj struts, MSA sway bars, cali wing, NO RUST; '81 280zx GL parts car (recently wrecked)
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Datto where do you live
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texas
73' 240z: F54 4.2L, OS Giken LY DOHC Crossflow head, 17:3comp.ratio, N33, Tripple SU's, T10 Hybrid Draw-Through TT @ 47pds, Roots&Centrifugal Type supercharger, 3-2-1 headers, Centerforce 4 clutch, 6oz flywheel, R300 differential, Super-Hicas
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This is the same thing that happened with the VW crowd when the new Beetle came out.
Of course they have the whole aircooled/watercooled fight as well-
Me? I'm just waiting for Ford to relinquish the Ghia name so I can blow my kids college money on a new Karmann Ghia.
BTW- I'll probably buy a 2002 350Z somewhere around the year 2025 (If we are still allowed to drive by then). :O)
Ron
Sacramento CA
73 240Z
Post Edited (Jun 8, 11:35am)
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Mmmm... A new Karma Ghia...
'76 280z 150% stock; '73 240z- 83 motor and 5sp(less than 30k orig miles), megasquirt, 3-2 headers, MSA exhaust, Tokico adj struts, MSA sway bars, cali wing, NO RUST; '81 280zx GL parts car (recently wrecked)
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How many posts are we from the longest thread record?
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Are you referring to the longest thread that is still on the board, or do deleted threads count, too? Either way, this one isn't too long.
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How long was the longest you ever saw?
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