What’s better ?

A&Q about 350Z
Q:

supercharged for me. as i own one.
my brother has a mk4 golf 1.8 20vt, test drove it 2 days ago. and it felt slow compared to the g40(which is standard). although a nicer drive as its more of a comfort car. been in a uno turbo, which is slow.
although the potential power with the 1.8 20vt is amazing
A:

Where's the normally aspirated option?
Nice big fat 8v for me. (OR 12v v6 of course!)
Cheers,
Drew.
A:

Where's the normally aspirated option?
Nice big fat 8v for me. (OR 12v v6 of course!)
Cheers,
Drew.
NA! wayhey!
A:

some info....

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some info....
ROFL...! I hope nobody is taken in by that rubbish!!
Cheers,
Drew.
A:

I saw why not have both
Alan
A:

You just can't beat the sound of a supercharger on full chat, especially with the re-circ pipework removed so you get the wastegate whoosh that would put any dump valve to shame !!!
A:

Well i obviously voted turbo. IMO the modern turbo setups can acheive practically f**k all lag, and tbh that would be my only grumble! I do so love the sound of a turbo screaming.
A:

My vote would be none of the above. I like a well sorted N/A engine.
A:

charger mainly cos i got one and i like the noise they make.
reliability isnt a problem, if you keep on top of the service intervals.

A:

charger mainly cos i got one and i like the noise they make.
reliability isnt a problem, if you keep on top of the service intervals.

what a dummy! That should read Supercharger!
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well about 6 months ago I would of said CHARGER any day BUT now i'm fitting an S3 engine in Mk2 its got to be TURBO POWER just for the sound of it spinning away at 1.5bar and the WHOOOOOOOOOSH from the dump valve is just heavn!!!!!!!!
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Obvious one really for me, Turbo - and yes, I do have one.
Been in a supercharged car, and I think you can't beat the kick of a turbo coming in.
Love the sound of a Turbo whistling on full boost (although the G60 does sound wicked as well !!)

A:

I would go for a centrifugal supercharger by vorteck.
A:

Difficult one.
If you want a car for everyday use, trammin around the countryside and motorway muncher... Supercharger.
If you want serious BHP.. turbo or turbos!
MG
A:

I would say that a properly done turbo car seems to have more gains than supercharged cars when dealing with smaller engined cars (i.e. no american 5.7L V8's etc ).
A:

Im gonna go with the nitrous...Cant beat the money per bhp...although you have to fill up the bottle regular :(
My mates seat arosa tdi (yes diesel) has been chipped and has exhaust and induction kit...he put on 100 shot of NOS and now he's running 302lbs/ft torque..thats nearly the same as a rari 360.
However you cant beat a turbo for grin value
A:

o webbers,
less complicated,
sound wicked,
controlable power,
old school
A:

Why settle for just a turbo or just a supercharger? I'm currently building an engine with BOTH. A G-ladder and an IHI turbo. Best of both worlds... low end grunt from the supercharger and then the kick and top end punch of the turbo and then the symphony is completed by the chuff of the dump valve! nice eh.
Edited by: G60 Matt
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I've actually used all of the above in 1 vehicle.. not my MKIV.. but I used to have a Toyota Tacoma Truck 96 2.4... I orginally did a 50 shot dry of NOS, then went to a 75 - 100 shot wet NOS. Then I got the TRD Supercharger w/ 30 shot NOS. and my last was a T3/T4 Garret Turbocharger... all has is pros and cons...
Best Power for the $$$$
Nitrous Oxided...
pos - BEST POWER Ever
neg - you have to refill the tank and keep it at a certain temp to run effiecently
Supercharger...
pos - Good on demand power
neg - idle to high, constant burning of fuel, only good for low end power, too much vibration can loosen the s/c off, robs you at least 10hp to power it. Change boost level from pulleys
Turbo..
pos - FREE horsepower, able to change boost levels easily
neg - turbo lag, more mid to top end power, need an intercooler to run effeciently, most expensive out of all these mods..
Now these are result from a natural aspirated truck..
but with the Turbo and S/C you can eliminate some the neg buy adding Nitrous...
but since I know have a 2003 MKIV 1.8T... I don't have to worry
end result.. I think all are good.. just depending on what application you are needing it for..
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Nitrous is the only option for a high comp engine like the GTI, especially if it has a large overlap cam. You need to detune the engine to put on supercharger or turbo. It is the cheapest mod out of the three and also the cheapest/hp and cheapest/torque. And it only takes a few hours to install if you are not taking your time.
I not only vote nitrous, I have a kit on order too.
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I vote Nos for the simple reason that the other 2 lower your mpg permanently.
So what if you have to fill up your nos tank now and then.
How much extra do you spend in petrol from the other 2.
Plus with Nos you can fit it at the strip(In a few hours)
Have your fun, disconnect it and go home.
No need to tell the insurance as it's only being used on private land.
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I vote Nos for the simple reason that the other 2 lower your mpg permanently.
So what if you have to fill up your nos tank now and then.
How much extra do you spend in petrol from the other 2.
Plus with Nos you can fit it at the strip(In a few hours)
Have your fun, disconnect it and go home.
No need to tell the insurance as it's only being used on private land.
If I had to pick holes in your statement, I'd say: if you had a turbo on a car with a boost guage, and you changed up early not getting the turbo spinning, you wouldnt be affecting your mpg too much.
I'd say: so what if you use a bit more petrol, its gonna be offset by the cost of filling up a nos tank which costs how much???
How much extra do you spend on petrol from the other 2? As much as a tank of NOS every tank of fuel?
I recon you'd find fitting and disconnecting a NOS system a pain in the butt after a while. It stresses your engine as much (even more) as a turbo does and needs maintanence by filling up the bottle every time it runs out.
Turbo's dont take up any space inside the cabin/boot of a car, they wont blow up in any way near as spectacular fashion as a NOS bottle, and they dont need money constantly thrown at them in the shape of juice like a NOS system. I know that turbos go wrong and can cost £££ to rebuild/replace, but then you can say that about any stressed part of an engine, and a NOS system can blow up an engine just as easily.
It's a tough question to answer, they all have their plusses and minuses, suppose the best thing to do is go for the one you fancy, or the one which has proven reliable results in other peoples cars.
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I vote Nos for the simple reason that the other 2 lower your mpg permanently.
I would argue the economy of my VR6 has improved after the installation of my charger when driving normally.
Obviously when I put my foot down the MPG decreases, but it's the same case with NOS.
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I vote Nos for the simple reason that the other 2 lower your mpg permanently.
So what if you have to fill up your nos tank now and then.
How much extra do you spend in petrol from the other 2.
Plus with Nos you can fit it at the strip(In a few hours)
Have your fun, disconnect it and go home.
No need to tell the insurance as it's only being used on private land.
If I had to pick holes in your statement, I'd say: if you had a turbo on a car with a boost guage, and you changed up early not getting the turbo spinning, you wouldnt be affecting your mpg too much.
I'd say: so what if you use a bit more petrol, its gonna be offset by the cost of filling up a nos tank which costs how much???
How much extra do you spend on petrol from the other 2? As much as a tank of NOS every tank of fuel?
I recon you'd find fitting and disconnecting a NOS system a pain in the butt after a while. It stresses your engine as much (even more) as a turbo does and needs maintanence by filling up the bottle every time it runs out.
Turbo's dont take up any space inside the cabin/boot of a car, they wont blow up in any way near as spectacular fashion as a NOS bottle, and they dont need money constantly thrown at them in the shape of juice like a NOS system. I know that turbos go wrong and can cost £££ to rebuild/replace, but then you can say that about any stressed part of an engine, and a NOS system can blow up an engine just as easily.
It's a tough question to answer, they all have their plusses and minuses, suppose the best thing to do is go for the one you fancy, or the one which has proven reliable results in other peoples cars.
Nitrous doesn't fill your combustion chambers with bits of shredded turbo or supercharger if the unthinkable happens. It's the same as any other kind of forced induction if done properly - just costs a hell of a lot more to fill up......
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